Wikipedia:WikiProject NASCAR/Standards/Proposed

This section of the NASCAR WikiProject is to propose standards for articles. To propose one, please put it below by making a header then the proposed standard. Afterward, someone will put the voting subsections to vote on. Unfortunately this section will not be used until new member join the project. Archives of this project is located Wikipedia:WikiProject NASCAR/Proposed Standards/Archive.

Notability Standards

Driver

Any driver can have an article considered to be a part of Wikipedia:WikiProject NASCAR if that driver meets ANY of the following criteria:

1. They have at least one pole position in any premiere NASCAR series.
2. They have at least one top-ten in any premiere NASCAR series.
3. They have at least one major award in any premiere NASCAR series.

• Examples:
  • Rookie of the Year
  • Most Popular Driver
  • Series Champion

1. They have at least fifteen race starts in any premiere NASCAR series.
2. They are a current driver in any premiere NASCAR series.
3. They are a member of a racing-related Hall of Fame and have at least one race start in any premiere NASCAR series.
4. They are a close relative of a NASCAR personality and are at least becoming notable themself.
5. They perished in an accident, racing or non-racing related, and have at least one race start in any premiere NASCAR series.
6. They have a unique piece of trivia surrounding them (see: J.T. Hayes), and have at least one race start in any premiere NASCAR series.

• Regional NASCAR Series (and weekly)

1. Any driver with one championship in a regional division.
2. Any driver who has won the Weekly Racing Series national championship.
3. Any driver with one championship in the Modified or Late Model Sportsman divisions when they were as national as NASCAR reached, and there was no higher division except Grand National.
4. Any driver named to the Top 10 NASCAR modified drivers list.

Teams

Any team can have an article considered to be a part of Wikipedia:WikiProject NASCAR if that team meets ANY of the following critieria:

1. It has at least one career pole position in any premier NASCAR series.
2. It has at least one top-ten in any premier NASCAR series.
3. A driver won at least one award in a premier NASCAR series (i.e. Rookie of the Year, Most Popular Driver, etc.)
4. It has made at least fifteen starts in any premier NASCAR series.(Total for all 3?)
5. A driver died while racing one of their entries.
6. A notable celebrity outside of racing owns/owned the team.
7. Any car owner with five or more (lifetime) championships in regional divisions, or in the old national Modified or Late Model divisions

Crew Chiefs

Any crew chief can have an article considered to be a part of Wikipedia:WikiProject NASCAR if their crew chief career includes ANY of the following criteria:

1. They have at least one career win in any premier series.
2. They have at least one championship in any premier series.
3. They have helped a driver to at least one award in a premier NASCAR series.
4. They have an unususal piece of trivia surrounding them.

Other notable NASCAR people

1. NASCAR corporate management, including directors and above.
2. Officials such as chief stewart, flagman, and pace car driver.
3. Past and present track owners/co-owners of notable tracks.
4. Pit crew members that become household names to NASCAR fans (such as Chocolate Meyers).
5. People that have an unusual piece of trivia surrounding them, and are famous for their involvement in NASCAR (such as the "hat guy" Bill Broderick).
6. Pit crews (as a whole) that become household names (such as the Rainbow Warriors).

Standards regarding placement on List of NASCAR teams

A team may be placed on the List of NASCAR teams if they meet ANY of the following criteria:

1. Team names.—Preferably, the team's full name should be included, with a pipe link to their proper name, if applicable. I do not mean the LLC or anything like that(i.e. Waltrip-Jasper Racing Company LLC), but something like Chip Gannasi Racing with Felix Sabates. If a team name is not known, just put down the last name of the owner followed "Racing" or "Motorsports."
2. Listed owners—For each car, the person credited owner's points should be listed as the owner. Obviously in the case of something Hall of Fame Racing, additional personnel should be listed.(Not sure where to put Terry Bradshaw with his team though)
3. Who should be listed on here—Generally, "one-off" teams should not be listed on here. Unless they have a press release stating that they plan to run multiple races, they should not be included.
4. New Teams—Obviously, not every team that announces its intentions is going to run. My policy is to put them on there when announced. They should be removed if nothing is heard from them in a year, or if they announce they plan to run X race, but do not and do not provide a reason as to their absence.
5. Closed teams—If an operational team disappers and does not run immediatley, they should be put in the "Teams with unknown status" section." If nothing is heard from them in a year, it would probably be safe to put them in the closed teams sections.
6. Full-time/Part-time teams—If a team announces it will run a full schedule, obviously put them in the full-time teams section, even if there are questions regarding its sincerity. If they choose to withdraw from a race, that does not automatically make them part-time. If they skip more than two races, the best thing to do would be to put them in the part-time section.

Standards regarding placement on List of NASCAR drivers

Any driver who meets the above criterian for inclusion in Wikipedia may be placed on the List of NASCAR drivers.

Racetracks

All racetracks that have hosted at least one premiere series race may be included in Wikipedia.

Races

All NASCAR premiere series races are notable for mention in the WikiPedia. If they meet the following criteria, they are notable enough for their own article:

1. Race is a race on the current schedule of a premiere series
2. Race has been held five or more times as a premiere series race.

If they do not meet this criteria, they may be merged/redirected into the article about the racetrack the event was held at.

Definitions

The premiere NASCAR series are defined as any of the following:

• NEXTEL Cup/Winston Cup/Grand National/Strictly Stock
• Busch Series/Busch Grand National
• Craftsman Truck Series.

The regional NASCAR series are defined as any of the following:

• NASCAR Whelen Modified Tour
• NASCAR Grand National Division, AutoZone West Series/Winston West
• NASCAR Whelen Southern Modified Tour
• NASCAR AutoZone Elite Division, Midwest Series
• NASCAR AutoZone Elite Division, Northwest Series
• NASCAR AutoZone Elite Division, Southwest Series
• NASCAR AutoZone Elite Division, Southeast Series

Voting

Support

1. Support as creator. --D-Day ^{What up? Am I cool, or what?} 13:45, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
2. Support. Royalbroil 20:53, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
3. Support -Drdisque 23:06, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
4. Support --Mrmiscellanious 23:49, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
5. Support, although I worry that current drivers are awarded articles too easily compared to earlier ones. DomRem | Yeah? 00:34, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
6. Support. Looks fine to me. --TantalumTelluride 01:11, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
7. Support. Looks pretty grand. Cs-wolves 12:15, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
8. Support. It is perfect. Metal 17:01, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
9. Support. I think it sounds pretty good. Chaz 20:54, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
10. Support. It sounds decent to me. Bdman 01:29, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
11. Support. They sound like very reasonable qualifications to me. Andrew Grigg
12. Support. I like it. cool! Good proposal! -- Technogreek43 20:53, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
13. Support. Recury 15:51, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
14. Support, once it is brought into compliance with WP:BIO. (Per, WP:BIO, "Sportspeople/athletes who have played in a fully professional league..." qualify as notable enough for this Wikipedia. As such, any driver that participated in *one* race at the premier level should qualify. -slowpokeiv 22:06, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Oppose. One start in any of the major national series = notable. Fix that and I switch to support. WillC 23:27, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
2. I support WillC. Reaching a national level is a major accomplishment. It is like having the records book from baseball in the movie 'Field of Dreams.' You may only get one shot, but you should get credit for it, because you never know what obscure driver may end up being researched. Also, for example, today I wrote the Jerry Kobza article. He is mainly a dirt track racer, but he does have two NASCAR starts. I found that noteworthy. Now, I would understand if it were a minor series like the Busch North boys, and then you need to have been a champion or multiple winners. However, I support the rest of the measure. I do believe that WillC and I would both support this if we were to change that one requirement. daNASCAT. That is at least how I am running NASCAR Wiki
3. Oppose. I would like to see it be not quite so easy for drivers to get their own articles. Many would just be stubs that probably would never be expanded. Crabapplecove 20:08, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

• • I have no problem with this modification. The modification would also address DomRem's comment about being fair with old drivers. Please define major national series. Royalbroil 04:59, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Neutral

1. Support, but have some questions. See discussion for questions. --edgester 18:41, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
2. Support, but I agree with DomRem about current drivers having it easy. Perhaps we could make easier for retired drivers to have articles as well. make it equal and you have my full unmitigated support of these guidelines ---VMAAXT
3. Support, but a new driver in NASCAR (Busch and Truck Series) should have to have at least 15 starts to get a page, or else it is unfair to retired drivers of those 2 series.Casey14 02:50, 14 July 2006 (UTC)