Wikipedia:Neutrality in Scientology
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![]() | This page in a nutshell: This is a short-term view project, created in light of concerns over Scientology articles. The purpose is to review Wikipedia's coverage of Scientology, with particular regard to NPOV and BLP. |
Applicable policies and guidelines
edit- Wikipedia:Neutrality
- Wikipedia:Biographies of living people
- Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a soapbox
- Wikipedia:Undue Weight
- Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Scientology
Task: review all articles and trim, delete, or adjust as policy demands.
Participants
edit(for transparency, please declare previous involvement with Scientology or Scientology related articles)
- Scott Mac (no involvement with Scientology or its articles)
The Resident Anthropologist (talk) (No, involvement with CoS. Previous involvement with Scientology articles but began editing wikipedia after WP:ARBSCI )- Stanistani (no involvement with Scientology itself - have edited Scientology BLPs with the aim of upholding Wikipedia policy; !voted to delete List of Scientologists as BLP hazard)
- DGG ( talk ) (no involvement with Scientology, has !voted to keep most articles such as List of Scientologists: deleting BLP violation is good, deleting "BLP hazards" is not reasonable.)
- Cyclopiatalk 15:17, 26 December 2010 (UTC) (no involvement with Scientology, little involvement to none in Scientology articles; agree on deleting BLP violation; strongly disagree in deleting "BLP hazards" per DGG above).
- Collect (talk) 15:23, 26 December 2010 (UTC) total Scientology involvement is meeting J. W. Campbell at a WorldCon in NY in 1967 when the Scientologists were holding a meeting in the same hotel. Strong opinions on BLPs to be sure.
- FT2 (Talk | email) 19:42, 27 December 2010 (UTC) only WP involvement I can remember is Meade Emory (AFD), probably a couple of others over the years, no CoS connection. Strong views on BLPs, but "Difficult to fix/maintain" or "Been a past problem" are poor deletion rationale.
- NestleNW911 ( talk ) I've been a Scientologist for a few years and I want to do my part to contribute to a NPOV on Scientology related pages. No involvement in Scientology related articles to date but plan to contribute to Discussion pages.
- I am an anti-Scientology activist. I am also not a wikipedian, just a reader who knows little about it. I made a few comments on the Jenny Miscavige deletion page and tried (and mostly failed) to improve on that article in order to prevent it from getting deleted. More importantly, I made a comment on the discussion page of User talk: Scott Mac. Scott deleted that comment, along with a discussion questioning his involvement and neutrality in this project, in particular him being a proxy for banned users. So what happens next? Will Scott delete this comment? Just so other participants know, these events are also documented on a thread on an outside forum: http://forums.whyweprotest.net/12-active-projects/wikipedia-editor-proxying-osa-deleting-jenny-miscavige-75541/#post1386803. For all clarity: I do not oppose this project. I am sure that independant reviewers fill find many Scientology BLP articles are biased. But at the same, I do question Mr Scott's neutrality in this matter.(unsigned comment was from User:85.147.221.167 - added by Off2riorob (talk) 20:13, 1 January 2011 (UTC))
- I am a former Church of Scientology member. I am not generally a Wikipedian, but I do feel that Scott Mac is acting as a proxy for banned users, either wittingly or unwittingly. Deirdresm (talk) 21:25, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
- I am a not-so-anonymous member of Anonymous, and a Wikipedia administrator, and am committed to maintaining NPOV in Scientology articles. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:59, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
- User:Griswaldo. (no involvement with anything related to Scientology on or off wiki) I can't promise much time or attention to this ... but since I just prodded an entry mentioned below I figured I'd add my name to the list.Griswaldo (talk) 20:06, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
- I can help out, here or there. Off-wiki, I'm anti-Scientologist, on-wiki, I generally don't bring my personal feelings into the project, and I have no involvement in Scientology articles except for removing a few articles from the purview of the WikiProject for not really belonging there. Sceptre (talk) 05:26, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
- KWcrew1983 ( talk ) I've been a Wikipedia editor for a few months and have a great interest in religious/spirituality themed articles, religious tolerance and coexistence. I have never contributed to Scientology related articles, but have read a few. From my observations, I have decided that I desire to contribute to the cause of achieving a more balanced perspective in Scientology related articles. I will be contributing wherever appropriate.
Articles to be reviewed
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- Particularly BLPs in Category:Scientologists
Articles of concern
edit- Please list any articles that give concern, with a brief summary of why. I suggest detailed discussion can best be done on the article's own talk page, or at any future deletion nomination.
- Jenna Miscavige Hill - Not notable? Coatrack? Would this survive AFD? See Discussion. Now at AFD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jenna Miscavige Hill
- Astra Woodcraft-
Proddedproposed reduce to a few sentences and merge to parent article suppressive person. Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:42, 25 December 2010 (UTC) - Kendra Wiseman- Prodded - feasibly this one as well, or the group, which could also go within the parent website. Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:44, 25 December 2010 (UTC). Deprodded as it had already been prodded and deprodded in 2009. Alternatives are a smerge to Scientology controversies, or a new article or section on Ex-Scientology Kids to which Kendra Wiseman, Jenna Miscavige Hill and Astra Woodcraft could redirect. Fences&Windows 14:35, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
- Mark Rathbun- particularly Mark Rathbun#Tom Cruise confessional files WP:COATRACK Section in a BLP
- Orientation: A Scientology Information Film - Possibly could be merged elsewhere, unsure seems to fail WP:FILM
- Jesse Prince
prodded - not notable.deprodded: possible evidence of news notability. Now at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jesse Prince - Kendrick Moxon (BLP of scientology attorney, currently a GA nominee) -- coatrack, DUE, NPOV?
- Delphi Schools -- pls. review unsourced statements, primary source use
- Death of Philip Gale -- currently a GA nominee -- needs a check for coatrack, DUE, NPOV issues. Now see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Death of Philip Gale
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- James Stacy Barbour - cleaned up a bit (removed Scientology references as lacking WP:RS) - sourcing still poor
- Victor Győry -Dreadful sourcing for a negative BLP. Is this notable? If it is all it claims to be then there should be far more? Comments needed.
- I just prodded this entry. After a news and books search the results did not warrant an entry even remotely.Griswaldo (talk) 20:07, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
- Now at AFD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Victor Győry
- Sam Glickman - I've speedy deleted this as a BLP violating article. If anyone wants to fix up the sourcing, I'll be happy to undelete.--Scott Mac 22:00, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
- The Way to Happiness (see [1], [2], [3]): introduction of potential OR/SYN and NPOV concerns
- Seems to me that out of the three paragraphs mentioned in [1], the first is valid but the other two aren't. 85.147.221.167 (talk) 19:45, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
- Citizens Commission on Human Rights -- unsourced statements.
Are these notable?
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- Gets mentioned in Guardian within Wikileaks cables - the Pirate Bay case appears sufficiently notable for her Collect (talk) 11:27, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
- Monique Wadsted
- Christine Hahn (reporter) (and is the Scientology-related reward she won)?
- Kenton Gray founded the "Dianetics Racing Team" - surely if it is notable it and not he should get the article?
- Zenon Panoussis should this be redirected to Scientology versus the Internet?
- Michael Lockwood (guitarist) - current sources are myspace and scientological
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- Leipzig Human Rights Award Obscure and defunct award given to anti-Scientology activists. Prodded, but the prod was removed. Active discussion on talk page. →StaniStani 05:55, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Guilt by association
editWatch out for biased attempts to link Scientology with criminality when the link is trivial or irrelevant.
- Mary Kay Letourneau convicted of Child-molestation. Her article included the irrelevant fact that her brother was a Scientologist. [5]
- Likewise what is the relevance of the other brother and GWB? John lilburne (talk) 21:34, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
- Charles Manson was categorised as a "former Scientologist". He seems to have studied it in prison and once put Scientologist down on a form.
Use of self-published sources
editEditors may want to review if the self-published YouTube videos listed here are in line with WP:BLPSPS policy; they are in mainspace at the time of writing. --JN466 03:27, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Articles reviewed with no problems
editDiscussions elsewhere
edit- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of deaths related to Scientology Closed as Delete now at Deletion review Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2010 December 27#List of deaths related to Scientology
- Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Stephen_Poludniak
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Death of Philip Gale
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alexander Dvorkin
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kenton Gray
- Talk:Xenu#In_popular_culture