Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive/2012/May

Proposals, May 2012

Ainu stubs

WP:JAPAN has supported the creation of the Wikipedia:WikProject Japan/Ainu task force to deal with articles related to the indigenous Ainu people of northern Japan and the Russian Far East. These articles all fall (or should fall) within Category:Ainu. While the category is undergoing some significant expansion as we gear up the Task Force, I have identified 33 stub articles here: User:MatthewVanitas/Ainu_stubs. Most of them marked "stub" are for locations in Hokkaido (the current centre of remaining Ainu culture), stubs of "Japanese mythology" (though specific to the Ainu vice the national majority Yamato people) or otherwise stubbed as "Japanese history", "Japanese bio", etc. (same minority vs. majority ethnicity identification issue). This stub would be specific to a Task Force of a massive WikiProject, so I submit the 30-threshold should be considered. Ainu articles are simply subsumed by non-Ainu Japanese templates and thus difficult to single out otherwise. Thanks for any input! MatthewVanitas (talk) 16:58, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

I suggest Category:Ainu stubs and {{ainu-stub}}, and also {{ainu-bio-stub}} feeding the same category, until/if the main category grows large enough to split. --Qetuth (talk) 03:14, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

If the scope is identical to the taskforce scope then the banner rating would classify a complete set. Possibly the WP Japan banner would need an update for that. That would then include articles which are marginally related ie relevant to the taskforce but not primarily about the subject. Agathoclea (talk) 07:33, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Task Force Ainu and ainu-stub would be identical in scope. I'm not quite clear on what updates you mean for the banner, unless you mean adding "Ainu task force" to the Task Forces list on the WP:JA Navbox (just did so now since you mentioned it). Is there a stock listing of "complete set" for stub templates? Though given the TF is new and growing I'm inclined to support Qetuth's sugestion that the Ainu stubs all feed the same category until such point as some become large enough to sub-section. MatthewVanitas (talk) 16:16, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Something akin to Category:Stub-Class_Japan-related_articles which most likely has not been set up yet. At least I have not found anything yet. I'll ask a banner wizzard to look at that. Agathoclea (talk) 12:58, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

From a stubsorting perspective I feel there is too little to start a new tree. From a management perspective the desired effect (without the stubsorting work) can be achived getting the relevant project categories set up. This has the added benefit of getting statistics/article alerts. It will also track more than just the stubs for you. If you go down that route it would also be an idea to ask the Russia WikiProject if you could include a switch in their template as well feeding into the same categories to be able to cover the relevant articles on the other side of the border. Agathoclea (talk) 13:16, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Agathoclea stopped by my talk page and asked me to stop by. I can help you add Ainu as a task force to a WikiProject banner if you need help and that and its what you want to do. There may be some overlap between the Stub category and the project stub category and doing this solely for the sake of stubs is probably not necessary. There are however, likely a lot of other articles in other statuses (start, GA, List, etc.) that could not fall into an Ainu task force. Below is a list of about 240 items including some categories and templates that I found that might apply to the task force based on Category:Ainu and I'm sure this isn't all of them especially if you want to include other content types like files:

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Talk:1994 Kuril Islands earthquake Talk:34th G8 summit Talk:Ae-oina Kamuy Talk:Ainu creation myth Talk:Ainu cuisine Talk:Ainu fiddle Talk:Ainu in Russia Talk:Ainu language Talk:Ainu languages Talk:Ainu music Talk:Ainu people Talk:Ainu Times Talk:All-Russian Committee for Defence of Kuriles Talk:Antsiferov Island Talk:Apasam Kamuy Talk:Aterui Talk:Atlasov Island Talk:Atsonupuri Talk:Baransky Talk:Berutarube Talk:Bible translations into Ainu Talk:Bogatyr Ridge Talk:Bronisław Piłsudski Talk:Brouton Bay Talk:Broutona Talk:Burevestnik Airport Talk:Cape Koritsky Category talk:Ainu artists Category talk:Ainu cuisine Category talk:Ainu culture Category talk:Ainu geography Category talk:Ainu history Category talk:Ainu in fiction Category talk:Ainu kamuy Category talk:Ainu language Category talk:Ainu linguists Category talk:Ainu loanwords Category talk:Ainu media Category talk:Ainu music Category talk:Ainu musical instruments Category talk:Ainu mythology Category talk:Ainu people Category talk:Ainu politics Category talk:Ainu toponyms Category talk:Anthropologists of the Ainu Category talk:Buildings and structures in Hokkaidō Category talk:Chyornie Bratya Category talk:Companies based in Hokkaidō Category talk:Culture in Hokkaidō Category talk:Education in Hokkaidō Category talk:Geography of Hokkaidō Category talk:History of Hokkaidō Category talk:Hokkaido Category talk:Hokkaidō Prefecture articles missing geocoordinate data Category talk:Hokkaidō region Category talk:Iturup Category talk:Kunashir Island Category talk:Kuril Islands Category talk:Matua (island) Category talk:Onekotan Category talk:Paramushir Category talk:People from Hokkaidō Category talk:Politics of Hokkaido Category talk:Shiashkotan Category talk:Shumshu Category talk:Simushir Category talk:Southern Kuriles Category talk:Sport in Hokkaido Category talk:Straits of the Kuril Islands Category talk:Transport in Hokkaidō Category talk:Urup Category talk:User ain Category talk:User ain-1 Category talk:User ain-2 Category talk:User ain-3 Category talk:User ain-N Category talk:Visitor attractions in Hokkaidō Category talk:Wikipedia requested photographs in Hokkaidō Category talk:Yukar Talk:Chikap Kamuy Talk:Chikurachki Talk:Chirinkotan Talk:Chirip Talk:Chishima Province Talk:Chup Kamuy Talk:Chyornie Bratya Talk:Defence of the Kuril Islands Talk:Demon (volcano) Talk:Diana Strait Talk:Ebeko Talk:Ebisu (mythology) Talk:Ekarma Talk:Ekarma Strait Talk:Emishi Talk:Esashi Talk:Ezo Talk:Filmography of the Ainu Talk:Former Provinces of Hokkaidō Talk:Fourth Kuril Strait Talk:Fuss Peak Talk:Giichi Nomura Talk:Golets-Torny Group Talk:Golovnin Talk:Goryashchaya Sopka Talk:Greater Kuril Ridge Talk:Grozny Group Talk:Habomai Islands Talk:Hash-Inau-uk Kamuy Talk:Heinrich Botho Scheube Talk:Hiram M. Hiller, Jr. Talk:Hokkaido Talk:Hokkaido Bank Talk:Hokkaido dialect Talk:Hokkaido Takushoku Bank Talk:Hokkaido Utari Association Talk:Ikupasuy Talk:Imekanu Talk:Inau Talk:Invasion of the Kuril Islands Talk:Iomante Talk:Iturup Talk:Ivao Group Talk:John Batchelor (missionary) Talk:Jōmon period Talk:Kamuy Talk:Kamuy Fuchi Talk:Kandakoro Kamuy Talk:Karpinsky Group Talk:Kenash Unarabe Talk:Ketoy Talk:Kharimkotan Talk:Kim-un Kamuy Talk:Kinashut Kamuy Talk:Kolokol Group Talk:Koro-pok-guru Talk:Koshintō Talk:Krusenstern Strait Talk:Kunashir Island Talk:Kuntomintar Talk:Kuril–Kamchatka Trench Talk:Kuril Islands Talk:Kuril Islands dispute Talk:Kuril Strait Talk:Kurilsk Talk:Kutune Shirka Talk:Kyōsuke Kindaichi Talk:Kyu Sakamoto Memorial Hall Talk:Lesser Kuril Ridge Talk:List of Ainu terms Talk:Lomonosov Group Talk:Luzhin Strait Talk:Lvinaya Past Talk:Maarten Gerritsz Vries Talk:Makanrushi Talk:Matagi Talk:Matua (island) Talk:Medvezhya Talk:Menashi-Kunashir Rebellion Talk:Mendeleyeva Talk:Milna (volcano) Talk:Moshirikara Kamuy Talk:Mukkuri Talk:Munini-imo Talk:Nemo Peak Talk:Nemuro Subprefecture Talk:Nibutani Talk:Noboribetsu Talk:Nusakoro Kamuy Talk:Ohaw Talk:Oki (musician) Talk:Onekotan Talk:Organization of Kita and Minami Fortresses Talk:Paramushir Talk:Pararayki Talk:Pauchi Kamuy Talk:Pirikanoka Talk:Prevo Peak Talk:Raikoke Talk:Rasshua Talk:Rekuhkara Talk:Republic of Ezo Talk:Repun Kamuy Talk:Rudakov Talk:Rui-be Talk:Sakhalin Talk:Sapporo Talk:Saroma Talk:Sarychev Peak Talk:Satsumon culture Talk:Second Kuril Strait Talk:Severo-Kurilsk Talk:Shakushain's Revolt Talk:Shiashkotan Talk:Shigeru Kayano Talk:Shikotan Talk:Shikotan District, Hokkaidō Talk:Shinda Talk:Shiramba Kamuy Talk:Shiretoko Talk:Shumshu Talk:Simushir Talk:Sinarka Talk:Smirnov (volcano) Talk:Snou Strait Talk:Takashi Ukaji Talk:Take Asai Talk:Takeda Nobuhiro Talk:Tamasay Talk:Tao-Rusyr Caldera Talk:Television Hokkaido Template talk:Hokkaido Template talk:IPA-ain Template talk:User ain Template talk:User ain-1 Template talk:User ain-2 Template talk:User ain-3 Talk:The Dagger of Kamui Talk:The Snow Empress Talk:Tonkori Talk:Toya Talk:Toyohira Talk:Treaty of Saint Petersburg (1875) Talk:Tri Sestry Talk:Tyatya Talk:Umeko Ando Talk:Urataman Talk:Urup Talk:Ushishir Talk:Vernadskii Ridge Talk:Vries Strait Talk:Waka-ush Kamuy Talk:Yamaguchia toyensis Talk:Yukar Talk:Yukie Chiri Talk:Yuri (island) Talk:Yushkep Kamuy Talk:Yuzhno-Kurilsky District Talk:Zavaritski Caldera

Kumioko (talk) 13:23, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

On further review of the Japan banner it looks like someone added Ainu as a task force already but if you need help with creating the catgories I can help you with that also. Kumioko (talk) 13:41, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

That's what I found - only the categories to be generated by the banner and getting the content processed by the WP1.0 bot is still needed. Agathoclea (talk) 14:46, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Ok that shouldn't be a problem. Lemme play around with it in the sandbox and see if i can get that working for you. Kumioko (talk) 17:10, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I added the functionality to inherit the class to Ainu categories in the sand box for Template:WikiProject Japan here so now all you have to do is build the categories and implement the change. I don't have admin rights and the template is fully protected so I cannot apply it. I did notice one other thing you might want to consider changing in the template. All the parameters are lower case so ainu must by input as ainu in order for it to apply to the task force. This also applies to all the other task forces as well. If someone puts it in as Ainu with a capital A then it would not appear. You might want to add Ainu as an alias to allow it to be counted as well. In my experience many people will naturally capitalize the first letter of a place and may not notice it isn't getting picked up. Please let me know if you need anymore help. Kumioko (talk) 17:58, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

You'll have to forgive me, but though I'm experienced at writing articles, the above tech details are a bit Greek to me. I think the basic Task Force and its tags within the Japan project are running decently, but I'm unclear as to what steps I have to take from this point to get "ainu-stub" to function and to file its articles in a category of stubs for the Ainu Task Force. It'd also be great to add the Ainu flag (shown right) as the icon for "ainu-stub" to keep it consistent with the emblem used for the Task Force. Thanks for any advice in clearing up what steps or info I should be providing at this stage of the process. MatthewVanitas (talk) 19:47, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Definitely use the banner, as that will help your project team track all classes. However, I have created exploratory templates {{Ainu-stub}} and {{Ainu-bio-stub}}. The category can wait until these have been populated. Dawynn (talk) 08:39, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Beauty Pageant stubs

There are 50 or so articles transcluding asbox for individual Beauty pageants, and a few more general articles on the topic. Currently most are tagged just a country-stub, and a few also have {{award-stub}}. Propose {{Pageant-stub}}/Category:Beauty pageant stubs as parent of {{Pageant-bio-stub}}/Category:Beauty pageant contestant stubs and child of....I'm not certain here.

Category:Award stubs does not seem to cover that the name/article describes an entire event? Category:Fashion stubs or maybe Category:Festival stubs?

In any case, propose category even if 60 not quite reached as this would become the root stub category of a wikiproject (Wikipedia:WikiProject Beauty Pageants) with over 600 stub-quality articles (althought project is inactive and most of the 600 are bios). --Qetuth (talk) 09:05, 28 May 2012 (UTC)