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- 1 Proposals, August 2014
- 1.1 Category:California Registered Historic Place stubs split
- 1.2 Category:Plumas County, California geography stubs
- 1.3 Category:Mono County, California geography stubs
- 1.4 Category:Placer County, California geography stubs
- 1.5 Category:Los Angeles, California geography stubs
- 1.6 Split of Category:Cerambycinae stubs
- 1.7 Proposals of India-cricket-ground-stub
- 1.8 Rethinking Category:Polyphaga stubs
- 1.9 Split of Category:Cerambycidae stubs
- 1.10 Category:Washington, D.C. politician stubs
- 1.11 Category:Lycosidae stubs
- 1.12 New Telangana templates
- 1.13 Category:North America university stubs
- 1.14 Category:Italian painter stubs speedy category
- 1.15 Category:University of Louisville stubs and {{ULouisville-stub}}
Proposals, August 2014
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I propose splitting Category:California Registered Historic Place stubs - create stub tags per county, and categories for any county with over 60 stubs (if any), as well as regions (as defined by Category:California geography stubs) which pass that size. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 12:03, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
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{{PlumasCountyCA-geo-stub}} has 69 transclusions, I think we should give it its own category. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:59, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
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{{MonoCountyCA-geo-stub}} is up to 60 transclusions, I thnk we should give it a stub category - Category:Mono County, California geography stubs. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 08:38, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
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{{PlacerCountyCA-geo-stub}} has 111 transclusions, I think we should give it its own category. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 08:26, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
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I propose creating Category:Los Angeles, California geography stubs/{{LosAngeles-geo-stub}} - a quick scan finds 154 stubs for this. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 04:56, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
Split of Category:Cerambycinae stubs
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Sorting Category:Cerambycidae stubs has now overloaded the subfamily category, Category:Cerambycinae stubs. Propose splitting by tribe, just like the permanent category. The following tribes have already shown themselves to be worth a template, and many will be able to support a full category, once all the species are sorted:
- {{Callidiini-stub}} / Category:Callidiini stubs (Perm cat: 43 P)
- {{Cerambycini-stub}} / Category:Cerambycini stubs (Perm cat: 59 P)
- {{Clytini-stub}} / Category:Clytini stubs (Perm cat: 41 P)
- {{Compsocerini-stub}} / Category:Compsocerini stubs (Perm cat: 51 P)
- {{Eburiini-stub}} / Category:Eburiini stubs (Perm cat: 42 P)
- {{Elaphidiini-stub}} / Category:Elaphidiini stubs (Perm cat: 135 P)
- {{Hesperophanini-stub}} / Category:Hesperophanini stubs (Perm cat: 49 P)
- {{Methiini-stub}} / Category:Methiini stubs (Perm cat: 69 P)
- {{Neoibidionini-stub}} / Category:Neoibidionini stubs (Perm cat: 57 P)
- {{Rhinotragini-stub}} / Category:Rhinotragini stubs (Perm cat: 93 P)
- {{Rhopalophorini-stub}} / Category:Rhopalophorini stubs (Perm cat: 71 P)
- {{Trachyderini-stub}} / Category:Trachyderini stubs (Perm cat: 143 P)
Counts reflect current status, although many are not fully loaded. Category:Cerambycinae is fairly well sorted out to the tribes, but the parent, Category:Cerambycidae, has nearly 6000 articles awaiting proper sorting, many of which will flow into the various Cerambycinae tribe categories. Dawynn (talk) 11:46, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
Proposals of India-cricket-ground-stub
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{{WPSS-cat}}
{{Stub Category
|article= [[cricket ground]]s in India
|newstub=India-cricket-ground-stub
|category=Cricket grounds in India}}
[[Category:Indian sports venue stubs|Cricket]]
[[Category:Cricket ground stubs| India]]
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Harshhussey (talk • contribs) 10:19, 19 August 2014
- @Harshhussey: What exactly are you proposing? You appear to have copied the code from a category page (and I've had to enclose it in
<nowiki>...</nowiki>
to prevent this page from being wrongly categorised), that is not how new stub types are proposed - see WP:WSS/P#Proposing new stub types – procedure for advice on proposing a new stub type, and see below for some examples of proposals. --Redrose64 (talk) 14:12, 19 August 2014 (UTC) - According to time stamps, seems like this was more of an announcement of a template that had already been created. But since the naming convention follows that of established templates, I don't see a problem with this. Dawynn (talk) 10:34, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
Rethinking Category:Polyphaga stubs
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For whatever reason, the stub project chose to split Category:Polyphaga stubs by infraorder, while the permanent categories chose to split by superfamily. I'd like to redefine this split by aligning with the permanent categories. We'll start with creating templates, and categories where feasible, for the superfamilies:
- {{Bostrichoidea-stub}} / Category:Bostrichoidea stubs
- {{Buprestoidea-stub}} / Category:Buprestoidea stubs
- {{Byrrhoidea-stub}} / Category:Byrrhoidea stubs
- {{Chrysomeloidea-stub}} / Category:Chrysomeloidea stubs
- {{Cleroidea-stub}} / Category:Cleroidea stubs
- {{Cucujoidea-stub}} / Category:Cucujoidea stubs
- {{Elateroidea-stub}} / Category:Elateroidea stubs
- {{Histeroidea-stub}} / Category:Histeroidea stubs
- {{Hydrophiloidea-stub}} / Category:Hydrophiloidea stubs
- {{Scarabaeoidea-stub}} / Category:Scarabaeoidea stubs
- {{Scirtoidea-stub}} / Category:Scirtoidea stubs
- {{Staphylinoidea-stub}} / Category:Staphylinoidea stubs
- {{Tenebrionoidea-stub}} / Category:Tenebrionoidea stubs
- {{Weevils-stub}} / Category:Weevils stubs
I'll sort out the families if this proposal is approved. Dawynn (talk) 12:23, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
- Changed the last to {{weevil-stub}} and Category:Weevil stubs. Dawynn (talk) 12:10, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
Split of Category:Cerambycidae stubs
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We have previously approved a subfamily-level split for this category. I will be working on that -- although even some of the subfamilies are reaching capacity. Looking to pull off the larger genera into categories of their own. Based on current record counts, the following can support their own categories:
- Category:Cerambycinae stubs
- {{Anelaphus-stub}} / Category:Anelaphus stubs (64 P)
- {{Chrysoprasis-stub}} / Category:Chrysoprasis stubs (69 P)
- {{Compsibidion-stub}} / Category:Compsibidion stubs (67 P)
- {{Eburia-stub}} / Category:Eburia stubs (98 P)
- {{Eburodacrys-stub}} / Category:Eburodacrys stubs (87 P)
- {{Eclipta-stub}} / Category:Eclipta stubs (72 P)
- {{Gnomidolon-stub}} / Category:Gnomidolon stubs (66 P)
- {{Heterachthes-stub}} / Category:Heterachthes stubs (68 P)
- {{Odontocera-stub}} / Category:Odontocera stubs (83 P)
- {{Tropidion-stub}} / Category:Tropidion stubs (72 P)
- Category:Lamiinae stubs
- {{Lepturges-stub}} / Category:Lepturges stubs (82 P)
- {{Oreodera-stub}} / Category:Oreodera stubs (114 P)
- {{Psapharochrus-stub}} / Category:Psapharochrus stubs (91 P)
- {{Urgleptes-stub}} / Category:Urgleptes stubs (80 P)
(I only looked at the family-level category for this request. More requests may follow) Dawynn (talk) 12:25, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
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I propose creating Category:Washington, D.C. politician stubs - {{WashingtonDC-politician-stub}} has 64 transclusions. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 12:03, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
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We have 106 transclusions of {{Lycosidae-stub}}, I think we should make it into a category. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 06:28, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
New Telangana templates
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Propose a few templates for the new Indian state of Telangana:
Dawynn (talk) 11:28, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
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Propose new parent-only category to pick up:
- Category:Canada university stubs
- [[:Category:Caribbean university stubs|]]
- Category:Central America university stubs
- {{Mexico-university-stub}}
- Category:United States university stubs
Dawynn (talk) 02:53, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
- speedy create - all other continents have university cateoiries, and there are plently to populate it. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 02:58, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
Category:Italian painter stubs speedy category
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The template Template:Italy-painter-19thC-stub has reached 60 articles. I suggest creating Category:Italian painter, 19th century birth stubs to help with this overpopulated stub category. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 02:15, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
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Category:Louisville, Kentucky stubs has gotten very large again (~1,000) as I've been identifying stubs that belong there and adding them. One seemingly high growth area are stubs/articles related to the University of Louisville, with articles of its athletes, teams, alumni growing like bunny rabbits, and I anticipate this only putting increasing strain on Category:Louisville, Kentucky stubs. There are currently 233 stubs that would qualify to be moved from Category:Louisville, Kentucky stubs to Category:University of Louisville stubs. This is more than the recently created Category:Louisville, Kentucky building and structure stubs holds. This approach follows that of {{UGeorgia-stub}} that uses its own dedicated category. Because I anticipate significant growth, I think a dedicated category is called for here as well. I will make Category:University of Louisville stubs a subcat of Category:Louisville, Kentucky stubs, Category:Kentucky university stubs and Category:University of Louisville. Note that Category:Kentucky university stubs would be new as well, and I will direct {{Kentucky-university-stub}} articles there. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 18:50, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
- Merely the fact that vone studied in this university doesn't justify adding the university's stub tag to the article (if it happens to be a stub). And definitely not the universty's city! An article about a person should not have sub-national regional stub tags, unless the person's notability is related to that location (e.g city mayors, U.S. state politicians, etc.). עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 07:02, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Can you link to the guideline for this?In my experience here, a city-related stub applies to any stub article related to a city, including people who are from that city in some way. An alumnus from a university would be related to that university. I have not seen a guideline that suggests anything as restrictive as your position. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 11:31, 3 August 2014 (UTC)- Upon further examination, I assume that you are referring to "If an article overlaps several stub categories, more than one template may be used, but it is strongly recommended that only those relating to the subject's main notability be used". This appears to be a suggestion in the sense of avoiding too many stub templates, and so keep the 3 or 4 most related to the subject's notability. I would note that in many if not most of the cases involved here, the subject's time spent attending or working/playing at the university is indeed part of their main notability. But I think it's a stretch to deny a stub (the first or second in many cases) because one could argue that the stub template doesn't correspond to the subject's main notability. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 12:38, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
- As for articles about persons, I'll take the point about the stub for a university's city, so for those cases, this new stub should be seen as corrective. Otherwise, like I said, in many if not most cases, a person's main notability would indeed correspond to a {{ULouisville-stub}}. We can be selective (over-selective in my view) and withdraw the stub in cases where this is not true, but we will still be left with a large number of cases where having this new stub makes sense. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 12:57, 3 August 2014 (UTC)