Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive/2019/February

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Proposals, February 2019

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2010s-pop-single-stub

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The result of the debate was create by year, not by genre.

I propose the creation of 2010s-pop-single-stub, since Category:2010s single stubs is becoming large. Template {{2000s-pop-single-stub}} exists already. --Jax 0677 (talk) 22:07, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Single stubs would only be needed if the corresponding song stub requires diffusing. Just use {{2010s-pop-song-stub}}. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 00:58, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Reply - @Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars:, using {{2010s-pop-song-stub}} does not help in reducing the size of Category:2010s single stubs. {{2010s-pop-song-stub}} and {{2010s-single-stub}} are parallel paths, which are both directly under {{2010s-song-stub}}. Category:2010s single stubs could also be subdivided by year. Thoughts? --Jax 0677 (talk) 02:40, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

@Jax 0677: I took a look, {{2010s-rock-song-stub}} has a subcat of {{2010s-rock-single-stub}}. If you can tag 60 articles with both {{2010s-single-stub}} and {{2010s-pop-song-stub}}, and 60 with {{2010s-single-stub}} and {{2010s-country-song-stub}}, you should be good to make your case here with no objections. It would be easier if the articles had genre categories, because then we could just use PetScan to justify that there are 60, but it doesn't seem to be typical for these music articles to be tagged with genre. -Furicorn (talk) 16:41, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

There probably aren't too many stub articles for pop songs from the 2010s that weren't also released as singles. Basically, creating 2010s-pop-single-stub will effectively empty 2010s-pop-song-stub. I'm sure the same would go for the 202 articles marked as 2010s-rock-song-stub. How many of those aren't singles? Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 19:48, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Reply - @Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars:, then the same is true for 2000s-pop-single-stub and 2000s-pop-song-stub. --Jax 0677 (talk) 23:35, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Yep. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 00:47, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Reply - Then the next solution is to break the category up by individual years. --Jax 0677 (talk) 13:58, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Do we have any other stub categories - whether for singles/songs or something else - which are split to year level? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:38, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Reply - @Redrose64:, {{2000-hiphop-album-stub}} to {{2009-hiphop-album-stub}}. --Jax 0677 (talk) 21:15, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Proposed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive/2017/April#Category:2000s hip hop album stubs in order to split down a category of "over 1200 articles". This one has 1,216 pages (incl. the stub template itself): the size is comparable. Notifying Skr15081997 and Od Mishehu who commented in 2017. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:18, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Although, I think a better solution for those would have been a subgenre..."west coast", "east coast", "gangsta rap", etc. over the "by year" option. The problem with going from songs to singles is that most contemporary songs with articles are also singles, so the moving one to the other doesn't accomplish much. For example, Category:2000s pop song stubs and Category:2000s pop single stubs have about the same amount of articles. I wouldn't doubt if 95% or more of the articles tagged with {{2000s-pop-song-stub}} are also singles, and either stub usage is technically correct. If pop song stubs are getting too populated, we should move to pop-rock song stubs, synthpop stubs, etc. before singles because the song/single stubs are too easily interchangeable and really not a big deal if one is used over the other as shown by current usage. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 20:44, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Reply - @Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars:, if subgenres are the best way to split {{2000s-hiphop-album-stub}}, then I encourage you to be bold. Unless someone comes up with a better idea to split up {{2000s-single-stub}}, I propose either "2010s-pop-single-stub", or splitting by individual years. --Jax 0677 (talk) 15:09, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

2010s-country-single-stub

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed creation of the stub template and/or category above. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was create by year, not by genre.

I propose the creation of 2010s-country-single-stub, since Category:2010s single stubs is becoming large. --Jax 0677 (talk) 22:07, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

We already have {{2010s-country-song-stub}}. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:36, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Reply - @Redrose64:, using {{2010s-country-song-stub}} does not help in reducing the size of Category:2010s single stubs. {{2010s-country-song-stub}} and {{2010s-single-stub}} are parallel paths, which are both directly under {{2010s-song-stub}}. Category:2010s single stubs could also be subdivided by year. Thoughts? --Jax 0677 (talk) 02:41, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

There are many articles for rock and hip hop songs marked with 2010s-single-stub which can be moved to the respective 2010s-rock-single-stub and 2010s-hip-hop-single-stub. There are others that are no longer stubs that still have the stub template. That can help reduce the number of articles in Category:2010s single stubs. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 19:53, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Reply - @Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars:, be bold!--Jax 0677 (talk) 17:52, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Reply - The next solution is to break the category up by individual years. --Jax 0677 (talk) 13:58, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Do we have any other stub categories - whether for singles/songs or something else - which are split to year level? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:38, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Reply - @Redrose64:, {{2000-hiphop-album-stub}} to {{2009-hiphop-album-stub}}. --Jax 0677 (talk) 21:15, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Reply - Unless someone comes up with a better idea to split up {{2000s-single-stub}}, I propose either "2010s-country-single-stub", or splitting by individual years. --Jax 0677 (talk) 15:09, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.