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Review of Cirque du Soleil Articles

Hi all! I've been adding a fair amount of sourced content to the Cirque du Soleil articles, primarily the main article as well as all the shows. I was wondering if someone from the group could spend some time adding feedback to how to further improve the articles either as marking them with appropriate tags or in the talk sections. I feel many are starting to become GA worthy, but I'd prefer to have a more experienced editor make these calls since I've been adding the content and thus have a biased view. Thanks in advance! (Brent.austin (talk) 09:08, 18 April 2011 (UTC))

I don't know that I'm very experienced but I'll go have a look and see if I can suggest anything EdwardLane (talk) 10:51, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Well I had a quick look at the main cirque du soleil article - it's quite extensive.

I did spot a few small 'peacock' and 'weasel' issues - I'll go fix those when I get a miute. But I feel it needs a bit more shape - it starts off well enough - but by the end I somehow don't feel like I've read an encyclopedia entry on the circus, I end up focused on an HIV issue instead. I'm not saying that's not an important issue - but it's not the main thought I have if I think about cirque du soleil EdwardLane (talk) 17:26, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback! I do agree to an extent about the additional info on that particular article. While looking at the CDS article, were you able to look at some of the show articles such as O, Ovo, et al. as well? I tried to make those uniform, but not sure if there are any additional suggestions for them as well. Thanks again! (Brent.austin (talk) 03:25, 2 July 2011 (UTC))

I didn't manage to grab time to get outside the main CDS article yesterday - but I'll try and get there over the weekend.EdwardLane (talk) 05:28, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Assessing articles

What makes an article Top High Mid or Low importance to this project?

I'm suggesting this

• top = circus article + international high renown (even if closed) circuses (Chinese State Circus/Moscow State Circus/archaos/cirque du soleil)
• high = other big/renowned circuses, current major act types (trapeze/clowns/fire/acrobatics etc), individuals that made major circuses Barnum/Ringlin,
• mid = small circuses, famous performers, current minor act types (animals, bearded lady etc), minor circus types (flea circus), laws passed about circuses, large international tours
• low = specific shows/small tours/acts/props/routines, media about circus, venues etc

I've just been through and tried to assess a bunch of articles based on that EdwardLane (talk) 08:46, 5 July 2011 (UTC) And assessed a few more recently - I aim to get through all the unassessed articles over the next few weeks. Let me know if you think the scheme above is wrong EdwardLane (talk) 09:19, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

My only real comment is that I feel some of the major Cirque du Soleil shows should carry more weight. For instance, O, is certainly a very well-known show, and has a ton of technical achievements in performance art for modern cirque. With the rating above it would be considered "Low," yet I feel like it should carry more weight. I don't think all of the shows should be rated higher, but I do feel there are a few with a heavier significance such as: O, Kà, and perhaps a few others. (Brent.austin (talk) 03:42, 25 July 2011 (UTC))

I think most of the cirque du soleil performances would probably count as 'tours' rather than 'shows' perhpas I have them around the wrong way.

Modern contemporary circus - is probably closer to theatre so Royal shakespear company = top the particular play (eg macbeth/accidental death of an anarchist) = high/mid the particular famous tour - first showing of accidental death by RSC = mid the particular showing/lesser tour - macbeth in the hammersmith appollo, or 4th tour of accidental death by RSC = low (unless it's got somthing odd going on - death of lead actor or something - to promote it to mid).

so I think for instance if there were such articles as the following

• cirque du soleil = top,
• particular show concept = mid or possibly high (if it is a significant as say 'macbeth', but probably mid)
• dralion tour of europe 1926 - low,
• dralion in london = low
• bbc documentary about dralion = low/mid
• bbc documentary about about cirque du soleil = mid

probably show = mid/tour = low/performance = low

But then trying to tailor that to balance the ratings with traditional circus where do performers come, and what about the first triple somersault, or the show which had it and the film trapeze or whatever ? It's a tricky business.

Please have a go at the assessment table yourself and see what you think :) EdwardLane (talk) 09:07, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

I definitely think this is more inline with the modern cirque. I'll take a look at the table soon and see as well. =) Thanks! (Brent.austin (talk) 20:17, 25 July 2011 (UTC))

Ok making it this for now, it can obviously be amended if anyone wants to weigh in

• top = circus article + international high renown (even if closed) circuses (Chinese State Circus/Moscow State Circus/archaos/cirque du soleil)
• high = other big/renowned circuses, current major act types (trapeze/clowns/fire/acrobatics etc), individuals that made major circuses Barnum/Ringlin,
• mid = small circuses, famous performers, current minor act types (animals, bearded lady etc), minor circus types (flea circus), laws passed about circuses, large international shows/tours
• low = specific shows/performances/small tours/acts/props/routines, media about circus, venues etc

EdwardLane (talk) 17:44, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Shannon equation + some theory

Please see this when time allows. It is a proposal to add a mathematical section to the juggling article. I am not a clown, nor an actor/performer but I do enjoy juggling. Actually I am an up-and-coming mathematical physicist.

-- F = q(E + v × B) 15:12, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Although you haven't heard much additional feedback in the Juggling talk page, I think it may be worth considering adding the equation you reference to Juggling notation. What you described seems to fit in better there than anywhere else. (Brent.austin (talk) 19:25, 16 December 2011 (UTC))

Missing topics page

Would you mind checking Missing topics abous Circus - Skysmith (talk) 08:34, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Thought that was pretty good - been a bit busy (real life) but I'll have a futher look at it. EdwardLane (talk) 11:42, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Rossa Matilda Richter

Hi all,

Rossa Matilda Richter was a circus performer who, about 140 years ago, became the first human cannonball at the age of 14. I started the article a while back when I first came across a short blog post about her and have more recently returned to do quite a bit of work to it. I've just tagged it for GAN and would welcome feedback, edits, or a review by anyone so inclined. It's far from perfect (see the talk page for some comments about what's missing/unclear), but based on what I've found in terms of sources, it seems like our article is now about the best overall source about her out there. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 16:02, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Rhododenrites, dunno if I can help much but I'll take a look EdwardLane (talk) 17:15, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

@EdwardLane: That's great, thanks. Since leaving this message I've also sent it to WP:PR. It may be unusual to have it at GAN and PR at the same time, but I feel like it's probably good enough for GA already and hope to use PR to get feedback with an eye towards FA. So there are lots of options for feedback now, but nobody has taken any of them up yet. :) i.e. a GA review, formal peer review, casual talk page/wikiproject page comments (or none of the above!) :) Any notes/edits helpful regardless. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 17:25, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Well I've had a look, but the article is in too good a state for me to be able to make a meaningful contribution - good job :) EdwardLane (talk) 17:31, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Barnstar

Introducing the Circus Barnstar. Jerm (talk) 18:52, 24 March 2021 (UTC)