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hospital pages for AtlantiCare hospitals (New Jersey) need attention

Please see a proposed split discussion here

Requested move at Talk:Trinity Health (Livonia, Michigan)#Requested move 10 March 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Trinity Health (Livonia, Michigan)#Requested move 10 March 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – robertsky (talk) 02:23, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Removing a DAB link from infobox

Hospital for Special Surgery currently has a DAB link to "Hospitals in New York" in the infobox that doesn't show up in the code, so is it programmed elsewhere to appear there automatically? Should a DAB be there? — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 19:27, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

The wikilink seems to be automatically added by the infobox Template:Infobox hospital/lists based on the region coding in it. In particular what's currently header 52 and label 54. It partly relies on the subtemplate Template:Infobox hospital/lists. I agree linking to the disambiguation page List of hospitals in New York doesn't make much sense and will see if I can get someone to update the lists subtemplate. Nil Einne (talk) 13:25, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Great Ormond Street Hospital

This project looks fairly inactivate, however if there is anyone paying attention, Great Ormond Street Hospital currently rated as high importance, looks like it may need some work. [1] In particular, it seems to have become a classic example of the problem with controversy sections as the section seems to have become a dumping ground for anything critical the media once reported that someone cared enough to add. Heck a whole bunch of stuff start with "it was revealed". From what they say, it seems unlikely all of these have long term significance. Nil Einne (talk) 13:07, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Lucy Letby has an RfC

Lucy Letby, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. NebY (talk) 17:21, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Children's Hospital & Medical Center#Requested move 12 August 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Children's Hospital & Medical Center#Requested move 12 August 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 07:41, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Best list format?

I've seen very good list formats and very bad list formats. In general, I believe the best is a sortable table - I don't like bulleted lists, because they are not sortable and just don't look great to me. I've been working on reformatting hospital lists in New England, and have completed all but one (Completed: Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island; Incomplete: Vermont). I put name first, then parent company, town, county, emergency department with trauma level, open-closed dates, and a column for notes such as status and type. Sometimes I also include a column for EMS regions where applicable. And because in the "Notes" column the first word is the status of the hospital (i.e. Active, Closed, Succeeded), I list the defunct hospitals with the active ones as there is now a way to sort by status. (Please - if at this point you've read something objectionable, let me know).

Today I took a peek at the New York State list and was pleased with what I saw - aside from the defunct hospitals and certain types of hospitals being in separate tables. However, for a state as large as New York, and other bigger states surely, this seems to make sense. I also liked that the column for coordinates allows for the GeoGroup template to be used to plot everything out.

Anyway, long story short, I'm looking for input on hospital list formats - if enough people share their thoughts, maybe we can come up with a format that can be used everywhere, if not just across similar jurisdictions. Let me know what you think! Mangocove (talk) 21:12, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

@Mangocove: Wow, nice to meet you! You have been productive.

I do not know the answer to your question, and I also do not know exactly where to go to get the best answer, but I suggest asking at Wikipedia:WikiProject Lists, Help:Lists, and maybe going to WP:Featured articles and asking for a best practice recommendation.

Eventually if you want to talk about global formats, check in at d:Wikidata:WikiProject Hospitals. Most of Wikidata has been in limbo for years as people make decisions about exporting structured data lists of this kind to various language versions of Wikipedia, but even so, Wikidata will probably be the next-generation solution for scaling this to all hospitals, everywhere, in every language version of Wikipedia.

For the design decisions about formatting lists, I am going to refer you to chat with the crowd. If you ever want to talk about data modelling hospitals in Wikipedia or Wikidata then I would chat with you about that. Thanks and update me when you have progress or something to show. This is really important to readers but not very popular among editors. Bluerasberry (talk) 15:09, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

A note of caution: given how matters stand on en.wiki as summarised at Wikipedia:Wikidata#Appropriate usage in articles, Wikidata may not ever be the next-generation solution for scaling this to all hospitals, everywhere, in every language version of Wikipedia. NebY (talk) 15:37, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your guidance! I haven't explored Wikidata much yet, but that is likely one of the next things I'll start digging into to learn more. Certainly if I start getting into data modelling it would be great to have your input. It sounds like it has a lot of potential, and my tendency to hyperfixate on data collection (see: my many, many infobox edits) will probably lend itself well to that. Mangocove (talk) 16:42, 4 September 2024 (UTC)