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This deletion discussion will be of interest to project participants. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 21:42, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
Mass nomination of Kerala organized labour-related articles
editNine Kerala labour related articles have been nominated for deletion (one already above), will be of interest to project participants:
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Socialist Trade Union Centre
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shramik Vikas Sangathan (2nd nomination)
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cochin City Motor Thozhilali Union
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/United Trade Union Congress (Marxist)
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/United Trade Union Congress (Bolshevik)
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kerala Gazetted Officers' Federation (2nd nomination)
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kerala Gazetted Officers' Association
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kerala State Transport Employees Front
Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 06:02, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- This looks like an innuendo intended to cast the nominator in a negative light and influence the AfD outcome. Goldsztajn has already accused me of "disruptive editing" for mass nominations with same rationales. First of all, if similar articles have the same issue, you can reuse the same rationale. That's not something to be "accused" of, nor is nominating multiple articles in close succession. These accusations are prejudiced personal attacks. Comment on the merit of the arguments, not on the person. All those articles fail WP:CORPDEPTH, which are sourced with routine announcements. In India, any organization can pay to have news about their events published. Gan Favourite (talk) 12:18, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- I don't see any accusations here, it looks like a very neutral post to inform WikiProject members about these AFDs that might be of interest to them. I don't see that anything, negative or positive, that is said about you. Liz Read! Talk! 01:42, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
Trade unions in X series
editI finally am cracking through my copy of ICTUR and working my way through Trade unions in X series, with a focus on African continent for Wikipedia:2024 Developing Countries WikiContest. So far I have created Trade unions in Burundi and working on Trade unions in Cameroon right now. One thing I noticed even for our existing articles, is they are poorly linked to other articles, beyond general templates or outline type articles. Any ideas how to change this within trade union related articles? One thought I had was to find major events, strikes and make more conscious effort to link them. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 23:04, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Shushugah - great that you are working on these! Unfortunately, I've been thoroughly inconsisent in moving forward on them, but it's one of my areas of work (especially connected to small states) ... I just checked ... in the last 15 years I've managed 16. I need to improve my productivity! I'm happy to help once you've started and I like a focus on Africa. Not sure if you are aware but the Danish Trade Union Development Agency (DTDA) has a very useful series of country labour reports (for some reason helpfully written in English or French, but unhelpfully buried deep in their Danish language only website). There's reports on Morocco and Malawi, which still need to have articles created. There's also this 1997 edited book, Trade Unions and Sustainable Democracy in Africa, which does not appear accessible via the Wikilibrary unfortunately, but has 10 country chapters, which could be very useful for historical backgrounds. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 00:14, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Goldsztajn I managed to obtain a copy of Trade Unions and Sustainable Democracy in Africa and indeed am excited to expand some of our existing articles too! The ICTUR encyclopedia makes frequent mention of Danish Trade Union Development Agency, so that's good to hear. Let's hold each other accountable and share here 1-2 existing articles to further improve/work on, and some existing articles to create. In a matter of months, I believe we'll be able to make significant progress! One thing I would find beneficial is a recommended structure. I am unsure whether to have background info about economy/colonial era/political background of country which are often instructive, but also better described in other articles potentially. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 03:45, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Shushugah: I tend to focus as a starting point on two issues - history of first unions emerging and current state of unions. With the unions in Africa, there's really no possibility to avoid the historical/political side, since many of them emerge as a product of anti-colonial movements, or they act as progenitors of anti-colonial movements. And subsequent to liberation, many of the labour movements are turned into state organisations. As a priority I suggest we try to get all the national articles created and then going back to clean up/update/expand some of the more important countries (eg South Africa, Kenya, Nigeria, Egypt, Tunisia). Perhaps for 2024 we can just focus on Africa and then move onto Asia for 2025? Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 05:33, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Goldsztajn I created Trade unions in Chad. I think that's a solid plan for 2024! I suspect Nigeria will be the most challenging and interesting article to create. I have created Trade unions in Chad and look forward to being able to make use of the above book's select 10 countries, as well as "The Trade Union Movement in Africa: Promise and Performance" which arrives on Wednesday. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 00:53, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Shushugah: I tend to focus as a starting point on two issues - history of first unions emerging and current state of unions. With the unions in Africa, there's really no possibility to avoid the historical/political side, since many of them emerge as a product of anti-colonial movements, or they act as progenitors of anti-colonial movements. And subsequent to liberation, many of the labour movements are turned into state organisations. As a priority I suggest we try to get all the national articles created and then going back to clean up/update/expand some of the more important countries (eg South Africa, Kenya, Nigeria, Egypt, Tunisia). Perhaps for 2024 we can just focus on Africa and then move onto Asia for 2025? Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 05:33, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Goldsztajn I managed to obtain a copy of Trade Unions and Sustainable Democracy in Africa and indeed am excited to expand some of our existing articles too! The ICTUR encyclopedia makes frequent mention of Danish Trade Union Development Agency, so that's good to hear. Let's hold each other accountable and share here 1-2 existing articles to further improve/work on, and some existing articles to create. In a matter of months, I believe we'll be able to make significant progress! One thing I would find beneficial is a recommended structure. I am unsure whether to have background info about economy/colonial era/political background of country which are often instructive, but also better described in other articles potentially. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 03:45, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
Featured Article Candidate
editI have nominated Tesla and unions for FAC and would welcome reviews, feedback and corrections at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Tesla and unions/archive1. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 15:38, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
Good article reassessment for Socialist Party USA
editSocialist Party USA has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 10:57, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
John T. Wilson (born 1861) nominated for deletion.
editJohn T. Wilson (born 1861) has been nominated for deletion.--User:Namiba 13:20, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
I have created Meta:WikiProject Organized Labour as a light weight WikiProject on Wikimedia to collaborate and identify some of our multi-lingual and interwiki tasks, for example updates to Wikidata properties (e.g d:Wikidata:Property proposal/workers represented by, requests for images (not black/white photos of construction workers in 1930s) etc and maintenance of list of vital articles Meta:Wiki99/Organized_Labour that should exist across all language editions of Wikipedia.
Applying for grants
editRelatedly, I am considering applying for a Rapid Grant (the lowest level; up to $5,000) and would love feedback/input of others involved here. What would be useful/achievable deliverables? Would anyone else be interested in collaborating in-person and or online for such events?
In the short term (6-12 months) I imagine using the money to travel/speak at several labor academic/trade union conferences about the pros of improving labor coverage on Wikipedia. Example conferences I am looking at: Labour Geography -- Groz, Austria, Tech Workers conference San Francisco, Streik Konferenze, Berlin May 2025.
At the conference/in-person workshops I can imagine achieving some low-hanging fruits like asking audience members to donate and label images of recent strike actions/photos of prominent labor leaders. Collecting info/interest from conferences for future online event/outreach/GLAM partnerships would be the longer term goal.
Longer term, I intend to contact my alumni university program, Global Labour University to conduct regular workshops with its students (WikiEducation style) and also grant coursework credit for translation/editing of relevant articles. Volkswagen and unions was a personal example of mine, converting a course essay into a Wikipedia article.
@Bluerasberry started this discussion 2 years ago, and I think timing is right for it. With an eye towards what @Goldsztajn warned about, not to rely on contributions that exclusively arrive when the funding arrives, we need to begin legwork of building reliable GLAM affiliates, an online network of potential collaborators, and clear list of low-hanging fruits/tasks across multiple projects. Nothing is set in stone, but I'd like to get the ball rolling and would love both input, and also interest from anyone who'd like to participate in this.
Registering a Wikimedia user groups
editIn the immediate, having 3-active volunteers would mean we could become a formal meta:Wikimedia user groups which would mean we could receive Wikimedia merchandise for events, get support/recognition from Affiliates, an annual scholarship to Affiliates only Meta:Wikimedia Summit in Berlin etc.. any volunteers/interest? I generally see us remaining a small group for the foreseeable future and want to avoid creating unnecessary overhead, but this seems like a light-weight enough process.
Solidarity ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 00:00, 11 September 2024 (UTC)