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This page is an Archive of the discussions from WikiProject Europe talk page (Discussion page). (January 2008 - December 2008) - Please Do not edit!

Template:Europe topic and Rapid transit in Europe

I have just created a template Rapid transit in Europe and would welcome improvement. It is adapted from Template:Europe topic although currently there will be only one transclusion until other articles are created. Some places may also needed to be removed due to lack of in that area. Simply south (talk) 21:09, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

All the other links in it are redlinks, why was it created if there is only one article?- J Logan ^t: 09:23, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

I thought the current template {{Europe topic}} was wrong as certain countries and dependencies do not have rapid transit\metro\subway systems. This was already set up before on Rapid transit in the United Kingdom.

I suppose i should just move it to my userspce until future? Simply south (talk) 11:17, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps, I really don't see much difference from the europetopic one, considering there is only one article I really don't see its use.- J Logan ^t: 13:40, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I think it could be useful, but you would need make some of the red links first. Crystalclearchanges (talk) 15:01, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Right, so we're creating articles for nav boxes now are we? I'm quite sure it is meant to be the other way around...- J Logan ^t: 15:10, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Besides, the only difference between that and the standard template is the exclusion of the Vatican.- J Logan ^t: 15:13, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

But all those things should have been up on wikipedia anyway. So its not like they werent needed in the first place. Crystalclearchanges (talk) 15:53, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Europe template and greenland

I suggest at least some sort of mention of greenland in the template. Although geographically situated on the North American plate (Madeira is situated on the African one, but is still considered 'Europe'), it is politically, socially, economically, ethnically, and culturally tied to with Europe. It is in fact a territory of the Denmark, a country which Im sure no one would argue is not of European. Even if a footnote is being attatched, it should still have some mention inside the template. Crystalclearchanges (talk) 12:56, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

also, can someone helping me here? I would like to contribute to this project, but I do not understanding much about it at the moment. My english is almost perfect, so I hope that there will not be a lacking of communication between us. Crystalclearchanges (talk) 13:25, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Greenland doesent have to be mentiond , because it is part of denmark . As the faroe islands arent mentiond either--Bindicapriqi (talk) 14:23, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Then the faroe islands should be mentioned too. In the template, there is a section for dependancies and territories. They should go there. There needs to be at least some kind of consistancy Crystalclearchanges (talk) 15:00, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

I dont understand what you mean . If you are talking about  : Template : Europe non-sovergin territories , they are mentiond there , but if you are talking about the sovergin countryes (which I thought you where talking about) they cant be mention there because they are part of Denmark --Bindicapriqi (talk) 19:25, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Kosovo relaunched

Editors may wish to be aware that Wikipedia:WikiProject Kosovo has been relaunched to help coordinate editing and facilitate monitoring of Kosovo-related articles. I will be sponsoring the project. If you have any queries about it, please ask me on my talk page or use Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Kosovo. If you wish to become involved, please feel free to do so - simply leave your username at Wikipedia:WikiProject Kosovo#Participants. One feature that you may find particularly useful is the public watchlist. If you click here you can see all the recent changes to articles listed on the watchlist. There is still a lot of work to be done on getting the project off the ground, so your help would be welcomed. In particular:

• The public watchlist needs to be populated with all Kosovo-related articles (and redirects), categories, images and templates. I've added as many as I've found so far but more need to be added.
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Kosovo#Recognized content and Wikipedia:WikiProject Kosovo#Formerly ecognized content need to be populated.

-- ChrisO (talk) 22:31, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Possible task forces for Hungary and Moldova?

Neither of the two countries above has at this point a group dealing specifically with them. Would the members of this project be interested in creating task forces for these entities? At the very least, creation of them now would make it less likely that a subsequent independent project would have to be merged back into this project later. John Carter (talk) 20:49, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

I would agree that Hungary at least should be created, but I'd suggest as a task force of WP:EEUROPE--Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 22:59, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

If anyone is interested in such projects, they are free to indicate as much at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory#Hungary work group or Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory#Moldova work group. John Carter (talk) 15:00, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Kosovo

In light of Kosovo's declaration of independence expected today, there would no doubt be a lot of updating of terms on Wikipedia. However, of course, there would be a lot of disagreements given not every country would recognise it. I'd propose that for articles under our scope we do of course make the necessary clarification but where we face problems we follow the policy of the majority of European states with that settled in the event of Kosovo joining the Council of Europe.- J Logan ^t: 11:15, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Not a bad idea. However, I get the impression that most of the activity will actually be taking place at Wikipedia:WikiProject Kosovo, and that you might want to make a similar statement there. John Carter (talk) 14:59, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Peer review

Is there a peer review for this wikiproject? I would like to get Europe reviewed here as well as atWP:PR. Harland1 (^t/_c) 19:32, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Latin Europe

Hello WikiProject Europe/Archive 2! There is a vote going on at Latin Europe that might interest you. Please everyone, do come and give your opinion and votes. Thank you. The Ogre (talk) 20:31, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Constitution of Belarus

Constitution of Belarus has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. ProhibitOnions ^(T) 10:36, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:Yugoslav people

Category:Yugoslav people and its subcategories have been nominated for renaming to Category:Yugoslavian people (etc.). If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. – Cgingold (talk) 12:14, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Project banner

Would the members of this project object to having the project banner adjusted to allow independent assessments for the various countries which also use the banner? I'm thinking here of Slovenia, and Albania, and it may also be possible to get the various other projects for European nations which don't yet have assessments to use it as well. John Carter (talk) 23:49, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Merge articles

European Radio Network and Euranet need to be merged, as they're two different articles about the same thing. I don't know enough about it to determine which is the more appropriate title, however, so I'm bringing it to your attention. Bearcat (talk) 15:02, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Slovenia

HI there. Wikipedia:WikiProject Europe/Slovenia now has 15 members and is growing almost by day. Given that many of the members are active would anybody approve of moving this project to its own wikiproject name rather than a taskforce? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 15:05, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

I can't see any objections myself, given that the project groups for almost all independent countries bear the "WikiProject" name. However, that doesn't mean that they would necessarily use a separate banner. I could adjust the existing project banner to provide separate assessments for both Europe and any other countries that would wish to use it. John Carter (talk) 15:10, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

History templates

Why are these templates so diverse? This seems pretty bad when more of them are used in a single article. See for example [1] (they have been removed from there, fortunately). I think a single design should be chosen but how do we go about it? Should we have a poll? --Eleassar ^{my talk} 09:55, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Please give your opinion about Proposal II on how to define Central Europe

Give your support or opposition at the Central Europe talk page, since we are looking for a single, comprehensive definition for it, and the topic is under ardent debate, close to an edit war. Pundit|utter 01:24, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Draft Guidelines for Lists of companies by country - Feedback Requested

Within WikiProject Companies I am trying to establish guidelines for all Lists of companies by country, the implementation of which would hopefully ensure a minimum quality standard and level of consistency across all of these related but currently disparate articles. The ultimate goal is the improvement of these articles to Featured List status. As a WikiProject that currently has one of these lists within your scope, I would really appreciate your feedback! You can find the draft guidelines here. Thanks for your help as we look to build consensus and improve Wikipedia! - Richc80 (talk) 18:41, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Project Scope

Forgive me if this has been discussed before, but the project scope/ objectives seem to be too broad. The first objective (# To increase the number of articles related to Europe) presumably includes all articles already in existence, regardless of significance. Examples: United Kingdom, Wales, Cardiff, Machynlleth, Llanbrynmair. These are geographical locations of varying national and international significance, all in Europe, but if all such articles were included, the project would be overwhelmed and article lists would become unhelpful. Similar situations occur in every field: eg, Pythagoras, Isaac Newton, Galileo, Isambard Kingdom Brunel, Otto Frisch; [[Michelangelo, Picasso, David Hockney, Tracey Emin; Adolf Hitler, Tony Blair, Jack Straw, Margaret Hodge. All notable topics but should the project scope be infinite within Europe? Folks at 137 (talk) 19:48, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Articles flagged for cleanup

Currently, 632 of the articles assigned to this project, or 34.3%, are flagged for cleanup of some sort. (Data as of 18 June 2008.) Are you interested in finding out more? I am offering to generate cleanup to-do lists on a project or work group level. See User:B. Wolterding/Cleanup listings for details. Subsribing is easy - just add a template to your project page. If you want to respond to this canned message, please do so at my user talk page. --B. Wolterding (talk) 17:46, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Rename proposal for the lists of basic topics

This project's subject has a page in the set of Lists of basic topics. See the proposal at the Village pump to change the names of all those pages. The Transhumanist 09:59, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme

As you may have heard, we at the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial Team recently made some changes to the assessment scale, including the addition of a new level. The new description is available at WP:ASSESS.

• The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
• The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
• A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.

Each WikiProject should already have a new C-Class category at Category:C-Class_articles. If your project elects not to use the new level, you can simply delete your WikiProject's C-Class category and clarify any amendments on your project's assessment/discussion pages. The bot is already finding and listing C-Class articles. Please leave a message with us if you have any queries regarding the introduction of the revised scheme. This scheme should allow the team to start producing offline selections for your project and the wider community within the next year. Thanks for using the Wikipedia 1.0 scheme! For the 1.0 Editorial Team, §hepBot (Disable) 21:56, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

European Space Agency

Hi. I've noticed that this wikiproject has rated the ESA article of high importance. As the article is in really bad shape et the present time, I'd like to start a task force to improve the main ESA article and articles about ESA programmes, history... My question is: How do I do that? U5K0 (talk) 18:20, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, you just do really. Just try to get a decent number of people together and set up a page within this project. I doubt anyone in the project would object, most of them aren't watching this page I'd guess (prove me wrong people!) so just ask around to find interested people and set up a task force in the same manner as the two we have already (note that they are copied form dormant projects so are a bit elaborate). If you have a specific request for help just ask.- _JLogan^t: 19:51, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

I've set up what I could using the good old copy-edit technique but I think I probably missed a lot of things in the category infrastructure. I've set up a stub page for the TF but I have no Idea what else needs to be done here. So if you could look over what I've done so far and tell me how to go from here, I'd be really grateful. Also I'd like to know: Do people usually join by themselves or should I contact a few wikipedians who are active in this area?

thanksU5K0 (talk) 22:34, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

International Commission on Civil Status

Hi everybody, i have just started an article about this most unfairly overlooked organization (the eldest post-war organization in Europe, no less!) and you are all welcome to spice it up. Thanks! RCS (talk) 19:34, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Europe

Wikipedia 0.7 is a collection of English Wikipedia articles due to be released on DVD, and available for free download, later this year. The Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team has made an automated selection of articles for Version 0.7. We would like to ask you to review the articles selected from this project. These were chosen from the articles with this project's talk page tag, based on the rated importance and quality. If there are any specific articles that should be removed, please let us know at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.7. You can also nominate additional articles for release, following the procedure at Wikipedia:Release Version Nominations. A list of selected articles with cleanup tags, sorted by project, is available. The list is automatically updated each hour when it is loaded. Please try to fix any urgent problems in the selected articles. A team of copyeditors has agreed to help with copyediting requests, although you should try to fix simple issues on your own if possible. We would also appreciate your help in identifying the version of each article that you think we should use, to help avoid vandalism or POV issues. These versions can be recorded at this project's subpage of User:SelectionBot/0.7. We are planning to release the selection for the holiday season, so we ask you to select the revisions before October 20. At that time, we will use an automatic process to identify which version of each article to release, if no version has been manually selected. Thanks! For the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial team, SelectionBot 23:03, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

North Sea Geological History

New article North Sea Geological History. Should it be added to the Template talk:Geology of Europe? Should it be renamed Geology of the North Sea? Kind Regards SriMesh | talk 16:44, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Outside input

Some outside voices would be very helpful at Talk:Sveta Gera#RfC: Article naming. There is a dispute over the proper name for the mountain and therefore for the article. Thank you for any neutral input you may provide! Vassyana (talk) 14:50, 22 December 2008 (UTC)