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A discussion of interest to this project...

...can be found at Talk:Prostitution#Sin. BMK (talk) 18:25, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Articles on literature part of Project Feminism?

I came across this article today (Xicana literature) and wondered whether it would fall under Project Feminism? It says it has multiple issues. Purplekimchi (talk) 16:05, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Two questions from a concerned reader

• Why is there no page for criticism of feminism? Considering that there are criticism pages for other prominent ideologies, like Criticism of capitalism, it seems no sense for feminism to get a free pass, especially since various sources have critiqued feminism (especially third-wave feminism) as being sexist towards men, missing the point, or engaging in harassment etc. I'm sure an article can be made that is both WP:NPOV and outline criticisms by prominent notable scholars of feminism. Was this article deleted , or was it never created? Is this project fundamentally opposed to criticism of feminism's existence? Would you guys support the creation of such a page by me as long as everything is sourced to reliable sources?
• Is there some sort of oversight for this Wikiproject? Only allowing feminists to join this project doesn't seem to work very well with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy. I personally think there is quite heavy bias on Wikipedia's Feminist-related articles to a pro-feminist stance and sources that oppose or do not agree with feminism or other social justice ideology gets routinely silenced; I'll be honest though, I do not like feminism very much and may be blinded by my own biases so would be happy to be proven wrong. This problem is made significantly worse by the fact that Wikipedia has all but endorsed feminism with projects like "Women in Red", which is basically a feminist project workforce dedicated to pushing feminist content into articles. This is quite irresponsible for the world's sixth largest website especially as it shouldn't endorse any type of political view, and hasn't in the past. I'm all for free speech and the rights of feminists to advance their ideologies but this is Wikipedia, where all views should be respected, so I think it would be better if this Wikiproject allows people who do not like or are opposed to feminism to join and edit as well as long as they stay respectful and constructive. Is there any type of oversight for WikiProject Feminism and Women in Red to ensure these projects treat liberal (generally pro-feminist) and conservative (generally anti-feminist) sources equally and don't start POVPUSH-ing their own agenda, especially as this is already happening imo?

I've tried my best to be polite here so I respectfully request you be polite as well. I support the existence of this WikiProject but I oppose it not being open to editors who don't support feminism. Gulugu Galaga (talk) 08:14, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

There is no requirement that an editor support feminism to join this WikiProject, only that she or he have an interest in editing articles related to feminism. — MShabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 16:56, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

I politely think that we are into "Don't Feed the Animal" here. Carptrash (talk) 17:25, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Help with an article?

I'm going to be posting this in several different areas, but I was wondering if anyone could help out with the draft Draft:Rape joke. I think that this could be independently notable outside of rape culture, but the draft needs a lot of work and it'd stand a better chance of holding up to scrutiny (since let's face it, this would get a ton of scrutiny once it was accepted) if we had multiple editors working on it. Anyone interested? Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 05:45, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Heteropatriarchy

Heteropatriarchy has been nominated for deletion. Could anyone help to expand the article? DaddyCell (talk) 22:50, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Sexism in Israel

Please expand the article I've just started. Staszek Lem (talk) 18:05, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

Looking for feedback on a tool on Visual Editor to add open license text from other sources

Hi all

I'm designing a tool for Visual Editor to make it easy for people to add open license text from other sources, there are a huge number of open license sources compatible with Wikipedia including around 9000 journals. I can see a very large opportunity to easily create a high volume of good quality articles quickly. I have done a small project with open license text from UNESCO as a proof of concept, any thoughts, feedback or endorsements (on the Meta page) would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

--John Cummings (talk) 14:44, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Toplessness equals pornography - Multilingual issues in Wikipedia

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Fragen_zur_Wikipedia/Archiv/2016/Woche_29#Vielleicht_liegt_es_ja_daran.2C_dass_ich_kein_Italienisch_kann_it:Industria_del_sesso

https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussione:Industria_del_sesso&action=edit&redlink=1 (deletion log)

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gac#Deletion_by_you_not_acceptable

--88.128.80.154 (talk) 09:05, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

Leeds Revolutionary Feminist Group

Just wrote the article a couple of weeks ago. Would love people to contribute! EricthePinko (talk) 22:50, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Wikimedia Sweden image project

One of the images of the volunteer model Juno

Hi, everyone.

Wikimedia Sweden recently finished an image project. The goal has been to produce photos of volunteer models illustrating underwear and human bodies that are not stereotypically while, male, slim, etc. I got the idea for the project after I noticed the almost complete lack of non-sexist imagery of women's bodies at Commons. I was project coordinator during the initial phases and Sara Mörtsell at Wikimedia Sweden has been the project manager. Ina Bäckström handled media coordination in the startup phase and User:Josve05a has assisted with technical know-how on Commons. The project was funded as part of a grant from the Swedish Agency for Youth and Civil Society. We hired Tomas Gunnarsson, a well known feminist and gender rights activist in Sweden, as our photographer. Everyone of us participated with input or selection of models.

The images that have come out of the project can be found in the Commons category Category:Uploaded via Campaign:Normprojekt. We tried our best to find as varied models as possible in terms of gender identity, race, age and body type. In the linked category there are 125 photos of six models of various colors, ages and shapes. All of them are volunteers that have agreed to the terms and conditions involved in having photos of themselves published under a free license.

Everyone who's been active in the project is hoping these images can be used to diversify our illustrations of human bodies on Wikipedia. I've already included a few of the images in articles like foot, fist and sports bra. Please feel free to spread them wherever you feel they are relevant.

Peter ^Isotalo 15:27, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Another Gamergate rewrite

Another rewrite of the Gamergate lead has been proposed: Talk:Gamergate controversy#RfC: Proposed new lede for Gamergate controversy. Kaldari (talk) 21:59, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Request for comment

There is currently an ongoing RfC on Talk:Same-sex marriage that may be of interest to this project. Thanks. TimothyJosephWood 12:40, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Australian women researchers

FYI, there seems to be a bit of a misunderstanding at ANI, over a group who made a push to develop a range of articles on female Australian scientists (with mixed success). Figured it would be a good show of solidarity for their efforts to help them out. A list of articles can be found on the ANI link above. Anyone who wants to pitch in is of course more than welcome. TimothyJosephWood 21:31, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

Inclusion of victim hotlines in external links

There is currently a discussion happening at Talk:Domestic violence regarding whether it is appropriate to include victim hotlines in external links. Input from uninvolved editors would be appreciated. TimothyJosephWood 13:47, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Category:Pro-life movement and its subcategories has been nominated for discussion

Category:Pro-life movement and its subcategories have been nominated for renaming to Category:Anti-abortion movements, etc. A discussion is taking place to see if they abide with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the categories' entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Graham (talk) 21:33, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Menstrual Technology page with focus on technologists

I have noticed that on the project requested articles page there's at least 2 dozen menstrual technologists. Perhaps instead of waiting for an individual article to be created for each, they can have a section on a Menstrual technology page. There can then be a category of articles to be created from existing sections (if enough material is sources). I.am.a.qwerty (talk) 05:38, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

Curious

There appears to be a bit of a conflict regarding the struggle to combat gender bias and some of the actions WP indirectly rewards by publishing and/or recognizing material from mysoginistic countries. Are we not in essence acknowledging/perpetuating/advancing mysoginistic causes, and by doing so, ignoring the very biases this project is struggling to overcome? I'm curious to know the project's position and what we can hope to achieve in the gender bias struggle if we're validating information as "encyclopedic" knowing it originates from such countries. I realize WP is not an advocacy but should we ignore our obligation to humanity? Again, just curious. ^{Atsme📞📧} 15:58, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

AfD of Entrepreneurial feminism

An AfD discussion relevant to this project: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Entrepreneurial feminism. K.e.coffman (talk) 05:56, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

RfC on Violence against men.

Category talk:Violence against men#Which version is better?. jps (talk) 18:15, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Chandra Levy

Input welcome here. Bus stop (talk) 00:35, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Visualization of Gender Focus on Wikipedia

Greetings, WikiProject Feminism! I've developed a new tool called Cartograph that visualizes Wikipedia articles as an interactive map. The first map visualizes gender focus in Wikipedia articles. Would you test out Cartograph and let me know your thoughts? More info at meta research page Shilad (talk) 08:10, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

@Shilad:Sounds interesting, but I can't seem to get anything to show up when i put search terms in the upper left search bar (step #4). I see you're running a mac, I'm running Chrome in windows.Frederika Eilers (talk) 01:05, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

"Sex or gender" on Wikidata

These are two different data sets, correct? Please add your opinions on [sex or gender talk page]. I think this is important to epistemology and fascinating that so many different cultures are involved. Fred (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:55, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Can we edit the Headers??

I would like to capilatise the header for "Women's Liberation Movement". How can I do that?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shockley DC2 (talk • contribs) 16:38, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

Domestic violence in same-sex relationships

Hello, I have been working on creating and improving the article Domestic violence in same-sex relationships and I was wondering if that article would fit under this project's scope of interest. I know the topic of Domestic violence more generally is of feminist interest, and I thought that this was a natural extension of how domestic violence affects people in same-sex relationships. I would really appreciate an article rating, and possibly marking it of some level of interest to the project page. I went ahead and added the wiki project banner, but if you feel that it does not fall under the project's scope, please feel free to get rid of it. Thank you all! Kmwebber (talk) 18:14, 28 October 2016 (UTC)Kmwebber

Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Women_in_the_Americas

Please discuss, there. Bearian (talk) 20:54, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Malleus Maleficarum

Hi. I have made major improvements to Malleus Maleficarum. However some people disrupt the progress from the beginning and recently they have blocked the development and reinstated lots of nonsense. They are pov pushers and people unfamiliar with the topic may not recognize that because they distort sources, misrepresent them, often giving wrong impression simply by out-of-context statements or by omission of details. I invite you to read my last revision that made sense: [1] (it is still work in progress) --Asterixf2 (talk) 16:58, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

There is no disruption in progress. There is simply an ongoing discussion on the talk page of the article. You should really review, what consensus is all about.--Adam in MO Talk 20:27, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

• I very strongly disagree with Adamfinmo (Adam in MO). Please see clarification and the rest of the thread. --Asterixf2 (talk) 17:09, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Difficulties in Malleus Maleficarum continue

Blatant propagandaDifficulties in Malleus Maleficarum, nonsense and WP:OWN continues. For more info, see this talk page section. POV is being pushed against all secondary sources and by placing nonsense in the article. --Asterixf2 (talk) 12:12, 14 November 2016 (UTC); edited --Asterixf2 (talk) 14:12, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

WP:Dispute resolution is that way. Please stop this canvassing. Thank you. — MShabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 12:35, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for your comment. PS. I don't consider those issues to be sth that reasonable people can disagree about. --Asterixf2 (talk) 14:12, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

Multilingual Women's History Month in March

• There has been a discussion on the WiR talk page about embarking on a multilingual approach to Women in Red in March. The general idea is that we should follow in the footsteps of Wikipedia Asian Month by encouraging other language versions of Wikipedia to participate in our editathon. It has been suggested that we could start with some of the European languages with Latin alphabets which have proved successful in WAM but we could also think of including other important language versions such as Arabic, Chinese, Korean, Japanese and Russian. For each language version we will need at least one coordinator to translate the invitations and support pages and to provide assistance to participants. We welcome any ideas on how we should proceed as well as any offers of support for other languages. The topics of Activists and Feminists appear suitable for all the languages but it might be useful to extend our scope to attract users interested in creating articles on women active in other areas. Please respond here.--Ipigott (talk) 11:28, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

Everyday Feminism - Criticism and controversies section

Editors are invited to join that discussion at Talk:Everyday Feminism#Criticism and controversies section. - Ryk72 ^'c.s.n.s.' 01:48, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

Man cave

Could someone from this WikiProject take a closer look at the article man cave? The article talk page includes comments that the perspective of this article is sexist and misogynistic. Such articles typically can use feminist sources for improvement. Dimadick (talk) 13:45, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

2016 Community Wishlist Survey Proposal to Revive Popular Pages

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Patrica Carbine

Patrica Carbine founding publisher of Ms, Magizine does not have a a Wikipedia page. I am a little bias because she is my Aunt. Aunt Pat was also Managing Editor of Look Magazine during the 1960's. She is also instrumental in engaging Madison Avenue in marketing large purchases such as cars directly to women. After listening to report on NPR concerning the Editathon, I thought she should have a biography. If this is not quite the location for this request please delete. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.11.143.81 (talk) 01:24, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Hello. First, I believe you misspelled her name (Patricia Carbine). Second, I think this is as good a place as any to make your request (although I'll post a notice at WP:Women in Red). Finally, it looks like there should be plenty of sources to use to write a biography of your aunt. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 06:23, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Fifth-wave feminism article

Can other editors take a look at the Fifth-wave feminism article to confirm if this is a term widely used? The original reference quality and framing of the concept done by a paid editor Ethanbas who also is opposed to a Feminism expert taking a look at the article raises some flags and I'd appreciate others more well-versed in the topic to take a look. Thank you. Hmlarson (talk) 22:42, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

I was not paid to create the article. I am also not opposed to anyone improving my article, I just don't see what an "expert in feminism" could contribute to the article, since it is *not* a widely used term, so there's very little that can be added. Ethanbas (talk) 22:55, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

@Ethanbas: If it's not a widely used term, why did you create an article about it? Hmlarson (talk) 05:53, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Because I still think it's notable enough to include on Wikipedia? Ethanbas (talk) 05:58, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

I think that a fifth-wave feminist page should not exist. It was only a little over a year ago that a fourth-wave feminism article was created on wikipedia. And there does seem to be many academics talking about that subject (2.5k versus 340 hits on google scholar). The concept on the book article is enough, imo.Fred (talk) 16:00, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

"Feminist Stripper" page.

This article shouldn't exist inasmuch there is no need for an article on feminist chefs. Or for the same reason there is no article for a vegetarian stripper. The beginning summary of the subject is made up of theoretical ideas and conjecture. The "Benefits" summary is an opinion. Among many similar phrases, "Feminist strippers receive a sense of empowerment from performing for an audience on stage" is like saying "Soldiers feel warmth in their hearts when they fight for their country", not only is it questionable and biased, it is mere propaganda. The rest of the article is based upon loosely related and ambiguous, completely non factual thoughts. This article shouldn't exist not for oxymoronic reasons, but rather superfluous ones. While there may be a stripper who believes in women's rights and empowerment, the phenomenon - wether plentiful or scarce cannot exist intrinsically - as it implies the regular stripper as non-feminist. There is no need to even have an addendum to the "Stripper" article, the need to create a self-serving, obviously rationalizing piece like this is absurd. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.4.224.176 (talk) 02:49, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

agree. If the info on feminist stripper is important it should perhaps be included on sex-positive feminism. Fred (talk) 16:06, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Peer review/Liliuokalani/archive1

Please help in the improvement of Liliuokalani by commenting Wikipedia:Peer review/Liliuokalani/archive1 for suggested improvements. Thanks.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 19:40, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Child marriage and Teen marriage articles

Opinions are needed on Talk:Child marriage/Archive 1#Recent changes and Talk:Teen marriage#Recent image addition. The first discussion concerns changes made to the article's terminology, the use of images and whether or not to merge the article. And the second discussion concerns whether or not the lead image is appropriate for the article. Permalinks here and here. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 21:32, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Day Without a Woman

Project members and page watchers are welcome to help expand Draft:Day Without a Woman. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:47, 2 March 2017 (UTC) Day Without a Woman. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:52, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

International Women's Strike

Editors are invited to assist with the expansion of the International Women's Strike stub. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 20:25, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Gender Equality

Hi all, I've decided to start doing what I can to spruce up some of the articles that need edits and rewrites, etc. Gender equality is listed as one of those pieces. I'm cleaning up the links right now but honestly, the whole article is a bit of a mess. I'm not sure if the references are even referring to half the sentences they're attached to. It also appears that the page is a frequent target of edits for class projects. Not that this is necessarily a bad thing but it could definitely explain the sheer volume of information in that page. Also, the page says it will not discuss genders other than male and female, which as a feminist I think is a bit of an issue.

Basically, the article needs a big rework, and I'm currently avoiding diving into that by fiddling with references, but if anyone would like to make a project out of this with me I could be coaxed into doing a bigger overhaul :) HelloStarling (talk) 13:59, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Portland Women March Against Hate

Project members are invited to participate in the AfD discussion re: Portland Women March Against Hate. I've expressed an interest in moving the article to March Against Hate, and expanding its scope to cover more than just Portland. I welcome editors to either contribute to the ongoing discussion or help expand this article's section for other cities. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:15, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Sexual Violence topics

Page watchers and editors requested for Duke Lacrosse Case (and Campus Sexual Assault) which are clearly not NPOV. The Duke page claims the case was a false accusation in the very first sentence and throughout, and that cannot be proven and, indeed, is disputed. Beauxlieux (talk) 02:41, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

I've been editing the Duke lacrosse case article and related pages for nearly ten years and fought with several editors over the POV, which used to include gross WP:BLP violations against the accuser. The articles, though far from perfect, are much better than they were -- but I agree that they would benefit from more eyes.

I don't live near North Carolina, nor do I have any association with Duke, so I'm not always aware of the latest news related to the case and its people. I'm curious, though: what reliable sources dispute that it was a false accusation of rape? — MShabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 05:11, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

Are you the Malik Shabazz who reverted [[2]] the removal of the word "false"? NPOV would not say it was a false accusation.

The Price of Silence by William D. CohanBeauxlieux (talk) 14:55, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

I am that editor. As my user page indicates, I use this account when I edit using my phone.

The edit I reverted made many more changes than just removing the word "false", although I would have reverted it even if that was all it changed.

NPOV doesn't mean that we report every theory with equal weight. See WP:WEIGHT. I'll look into the source you mention, but as far as I can tell, the overwhelming majority of reliable sources say that the accusations were false. If I'm mistaken, or if consensus is changing regarding the incident or the accusations, we should cite reliable sources and change the article.

With respect to The Price of Silence, is there a particular chapter or section that suggests the accusations weren't false? Thank you. — MShabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 18:07, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

See the wikipedia entry for The Price of Silence (book) to which there is no internal link in the article. Beauxlieux (talk) 19:26, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

Unfortunately, upon further review, not unsurprisingly, the wikipedia entry for the book does not have NPOV either. It refutes the book without giving the author's perspective, summed up in the Cosmo interview which is that he believes something happened: the police, nurse, and D.A. all believed her. The book got many positive reviews from reputable news sources. We need to be neutral in describing the allegation. Beauxlieux (talk) 00:47, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

That's one of the shittiest Wikipedia articles I've seen in a while, but I can't say I'm surprised. (I particularly like the original research about the comments left on Amazon and other websites.) Just about every article related to the case was a POV (and BLP) mess before I got involved. (I'm not claiming that they're perfect now, because they're not, but they're much, much better than they were.)

I'll have to get a copy of Cohan's book and read it, and also read some of the reviews. In the meantime, if you've got a copy and want to edit the Duke article based on the book, I'll try to support your changes. — MShabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 11:28, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

I would like to start by taking out the assumption that it was a false allegation. Will you support me in that?Beauxlieux (talk) 12:02, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Not if it is reliably sourced, we follow wikipedia guidelines, right? ♫ RichardWeiss talk contribs 12:32, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

RfC on the WP:ANDOR guideline

Hi, all. Opinions are needed on the following: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#RfC: Should the WP:ANDOR guideline be softened to begin with "Avoid unless" wording or similar?. A WP:Permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 23:07, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

request assessments

Dear fellow contributors,

Could you help reassess the quality of these articles, which I believe are relevant to this project?

1. Wat Paknam Bhasicharoen Has now been assessed at C-level, and nominated for good article now. Feel free to help review.
2. Chandra Khonnokyoong

Thanks.--Farang Rak Tham (talk) 21:11, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

The articles have been assessed now. Thank you!--Farang Rak Tham (talk) 08:47, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Assessment request

Nevertheless, she persisted is now in DYK prep area 5, tentatively to be on Main Page April 30/May 1, depending on time zone. It has not yet been assessed. Any reviewers available? Cheers! — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 17:29, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Popular pages report

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Misogyny discussion

I have started a discussion at Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard#Calling_people.2C_movements.2C_and_viewpoints_.22misogynistic.22 about when it is appropriate to call viewpoints "misogynistic". Compy book (talk) 02:59, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Category deletion discussion that may be of interest to some of you

Howdy. Through my film and tv editing stuff, I became aware of this Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 June 6#Category:Female characters in television. It seemed like a category in which your project might cross paths with the tv project and I thought some folks might want to comment. Cheers. Millahnna (talk) 15:55, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Template talk:Feminist philosophy sidebar

Could some people give their feedback on this. There's a few questions to be addressed. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 15:16, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Adella Hunt Logan

I am wondering if participants of this project see this person, Adella Hunt Logan, as qualifying for a stand-alone article. She seems to be a minor player in the suffrage movement and did not gather a lot of notice in her time. I also queried WikiProject Women's History on that project's talk page. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 15:39, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

While it may be true she was not well-known in her lifetime, she meets GNG without question, with two Oxford University Press references. As the matriarch of a prominent family, she is also referenced in a separate WP article, Logan family (historical), but her well-documented activism, educational and health advocacy, and suffrage work make her deserving of a separate article, in my opinion. Cheers! — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 18:37, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

"Tiny Hands"

Resolved

Project members are invited to participate in the ongoing deletion discussion about Fiona Apple's protest song "Tiny Hands" for the 2017 Women's March at the following link: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tiny Hands. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 02:03, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Art+Feminism at German Wikipedia

Resolved

The German Wikipedia article for Art+Feminism was nominated for deletion. Here is a link to the ongoing discussion, if you care to contribute. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 12:50, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

#MeToo

Are there any project members who care to help improve the Me too (hashtag) article, or participate in any of the related ongoing discussions? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:25, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Portrayal of women in film

I put in a request for an article Portrayal of women in film (or similar). It would be very interesting to have an article that covered portrayal of female characters in the history of cinema, sourced from film critics and gender studies academics. At present there is nothing on Wikipedia that addresses this topic, with the sole exception of Portrayal of women in film noir - which is obviously quite limited in scope to one particular genre. I think it would add much to Wikipedia. There is Women in film but this seems to focus on women in production (directors, screenwriters, actors etc) but not on the actual Cultural depictions of women. A comparable article to my suggestion is Portrayal of women in American comics. Does anyone feel they could contribute? Cnbrb (talk) 11:02, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

Attntion needed: Reverse sexism

See Talk:Reverse sexism#Neutrality of section "Examples of reverse sexism" Staszek Lem (talk) 23:11, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

Off wiki workshops in existing Feminist forums in Shanghai

(Copied from meta wiki)

Hello. I'm Elliott and this is my user page on English Wikipedia. This morning I am going to get breakfast with a friend and public speaker, who organizes and hosts feminist discussion forums in Shanghai, China. Our purpose is to discuss the inclusion of Wikipeida workshops at future events, to cover topics such as:

• A general outline of the gender gap issue
• How to find articles in need of attention or creation
• How to create an account
• Some info on Wikipedia policy and guidelines

The purpose of the workshop will be a hands-on exercise in which the group will be provided with a quantity of source material and a new article will be created during (not after) the workshop, to highlight the immediacy of effort contributed to he project. It is my hope that the workshop will result in the creation of new accounts and the addition of female Chinese editors who contribute regularly to the project. I'm opening this thread to get some help and feed back and also welcome the opening of a discussion of this subject on the talk page of my English Wikipedia user page. Many thanks! Edaham (talk) 00:28, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

A discussion is going on on my talk page Edaham (talk) 00:56, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

Ivanovic–Janković rivalry

"Serbian tennis players Ana Ivanovic and Jelena Janković are both former world No. 1 and have met 12 times so far." So why has one been Anglicised and one hasn't? In ictu oculi (talk) 13:05, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Disambiguation links on pages tagged by this wikiproject

Wikipedia has many thousands of wikilinks which point to disambiguation pages. It would be useful to readers if these links directed them to the specific pages of interest, rather than making them search through a list. Members of WikiProject Disambiguation have been working on this and the total number is now below 20,000 for the first time. Some of these links require specialist knowledge of the topics concerned and therefore it would be great if you could help in your area of expertise.

A list of the relevant links on pages which fall within the remit of this wikiproject can be found at http://69.142.160.183/~dispenser/cgi-bin/topic_points.py?banner=WikiProject_Feminism

Please take a few minutes to help make these more useful to our readers.— Rod ^talk 15:36, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Josephine Butler

You are invited to comment at Talk:Josephine Butler#Request for comment on names where there's an issue about naming; the article (which is currently a FA) refers to its female subject by her first name throughout "for simplicity". Any input is welcome. --John (talk) 18:27, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Having a gendered category only when there's an article behind it

FYI

 – Pointer to relevant discussion elsewhere.

Please see Wikipedia talk:Categorization#Revisiting gendered categories: Let's have a clear criterion of "has or can have a proper article"

It is not a !voting proposal or RfC, but a discussion draft, and has already had some constructive feedback (e.g. leading with "ghettoization" of articles was a distraction, as were suggesting statistical differences and reasons for them without providing sources). Seeking input on the overall idea.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ<  02:42, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Split proposal at Second-wave feminism

Your feedback is welcome at Talk:Second-wave feminism, concerning splitting off the Timeline section into a new article. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 04:22, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

This has been successfully concluded, thanks. Mathglot (talk) 11:40, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

And a similar proposal has been created by Woodsy lesfem at Talk:First-wave feminism in case you'd like to opine there. Mathglot (talk) 09:07, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Merge proposal

It has been proposed that Timeline of feminism be merged into Timeline of second-wave feminism. Seeking your feedback at Talk:Timeline of feminism#Merge discussion. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 11:44, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Pubic hair

I started a discussion on the WikiProject Anatomy talk page because I am concerned about the bias (and said so). I am asking for input from this project on the talk page. Here is what I posted:

Exactly how many photos of pubic hair are needed? If an image is lacking pubic hair, is that relevant? You usually don't illustrate a part of a person's anatomy by showing its absence. Also I am blaming implicit bias here but there is one photo of a man's pubic hair and five photos of a woman's pubic hair. Their are no images of axillary hair. There are five images of no pubic hair.

Facial hair contains no images of the absence of facial hair. Eyebrows contains no images of the absence of eyebrows.

Best Regards, Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ 16:05, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

100% agree. It's obviously biased towards pictures of women's genitals and the pictures are not meant to illustrate the article. Lonehexagon (talk) 01:17, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

@Barbara (WVS): This is a rather widespread issue on the wiki project. (White, able-bodied, cis) women's bodies are used to illustrate many sexual concepts. Pubic hair is a good example. Others are Naturism, nipple, Exhibitionism, and most fetish/philia pages. EvergreenFir (talk) 01:24, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

When I bring it up, I'm accused of all sorts of things. How can this bias be handled? Since it is so obvious, can this be brought up to arbcom? I was reverted when I removed some images in the pubic hair article. No one backed me up on this. Can it be as simple as editing? Barbara (WVS) ✐  ✉ 02:38, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Barbara, you could open an RfC and ask for consensus to add something like the following (copied in part from Wikipedia:Writing about women) to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Images: "Avoid images that objectify women. In particular, do not use pornography images in articles that are not about pornography. Except when the topic is necessarily tied to it (examples: downblouse and upskirt), avoid examples of male-gaze imagery, where women are presented as objects of heterosexual male appreciation. When adding an image of part of a woman's body, consider cropping the image to focus on that body part. Do not add images of women's bodies gratuitously. If illustrations of bodies are needed, use images of men too and vary the ages of the subjects. SarahSV ^(talk) 03:54, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Since Lonehexagon commented at Talk:Pubic hair and part of the above commentary by Barbara (WVS) concerns me, I'm noting here that I commented at the article talk page. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 03:56, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

First post

I am a seventy six year old woman and I have experience a few incidents of near sexual abuse. Their was no intercourse involved in any od them. Each incident happened before I reach age 12, perhaps because I lived in a very sexually unaware society, where men were men and women were their servants or slaves. I know that things are very different now but the effect of the abusive stuff is the same.

This happened three times, two of them involved being tied to trees by teen age boys and then "felt up". This occurred regularly for some weeks at school before the teachers finally caught on to what was happening and put a stop to it. It was difficult for us to get them to listen. The general view of the teachers was that we were making it up.

The second incident happened at my parents friend's farm. Their teen age boys would take us out to see the horses, but while there, they would take turns holding us down while the others would fondle and touch us everywhere. My parents couldn't believe our stories and were very upset that we could say such things. Finally we refused to go there any more and my parents respected that decision.

Finally I was at a public park with my four year old sister and my Mother. There was a wading pool there and Mom sent us to play there, putting me, age eight, in charge. A man approached us and seemed friendly. He invited us to go up the hill away from the park and on the way he started touching my sister and I. I was immediately suspicious and grabbed her hand and started back. He did not chase us, so it ended and we didn't mention it to my Mom.

I realize that these incidents are so very minor in terms of sexual abuse, but their affect on my life has been quite profound. They are never far from my mind and certainly gave me some pretty warped views about men's relationship to women. It has taken years to correct my ideas. Some things are still off.

I promised you one more story, this is an upper. I got on the bus and sat down beside a man. I think I was about age eight or nine. I was not uncomfortable on the but by myself. After a few minutes the man unzipped his pants and started stroking his penis. I noticed this, decided I needed to do something and went to the bus driver. I told him what the man was doing. The driver invited me to sit beside him instead and I did. We drove on and then he stopped. He announced, "Police Station." then got up , went to the man and hauled him off the bus and into the station. When he came out he was alone and grinning. He told me that the police would now take care of that bad man and said I had been very smart to tell him.

This event has never left me. I was very proud of having handled this difficult situation and the praise I got from the driver. It started out poorly, but ended uo just fine. Have a good day everyone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Helena D. 7373 (talk • contribs) 19:20, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Sarah Jane Brown move discussion

In case anyone is interested, Talk:Sarah Jane Brown#Requested move 8 February 2018. SarahSV ^(talk) 20:14, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

Women's History Month 2018 at Women in Red

		Welcome to Women in Red's March 2018 worldwide online editathons. Historically, our March event has been one of the biggest offerings of the year. This year, we are collaborating with two other wiki communities. Our article campaign is the official on-line/virtual node for Art+Feminism. Our image campaign supports the Whose Knowledge? initiative. Women's History Month 2018 Continuing: #1day1woman Global Initiative
		(To subscribe: Women in Red/English language mailing list and Women in Red/international list. Unsubscribe: Women in Red/Opt-out list) --Ipigott (talk) 11:14, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

RfC about Christina Hoff Sommers book review

A request for comment is underway at Talk:Christina_Hoff_Sommers#RfC_about_the_Melanie_Kirkpatrick_quote. Feel free to comment. Binksternet (talk) 15:23, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Request for assistance

There is a discussion on Talk:Margaret Sanger#I have reverted the edits of NightHeron, as I think they better be discussed first that failed to attract third-party comments. Your comments are welcome there! Request put down here, as it is listed s in the interest of this WikiProject. The Banner talk 23:51, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Defining slut-shaming in the lead of the Slut-shaming article

Opinions are needed on the following matter: Talk:Slut-shaming#WP:Undue weight with regard to changing the lead sentence to "people". A permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 00:42, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Saudi women in the arts

I worked on this draft some time ago and then forgot about it. I've just retrieved it from the G13 bin. If there is anyone here interested in working on it please do so - before it gets tossed into the G13 bin again. I will try to do some work on it too though my time here is somewhat limited lately. I have listed a fairly good collection of sources in English on the draft, so the ability to read Arabic is not needed, at least initially. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:18, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Dodger67, you should add a sentence or two about Wadjda to the film section. Plenty of refs available. Then run a search on Saudi women and add some content and links to the articles you see there, as well. HTH, Mathglot (talk) 07:40, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Mathglot, I have copied the lead of Wadjda into the draft. Please feel free to edit it. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:49, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

I think my original appeal has been lost in the subsequent discussion. My main motive for posting here is to get someone else to take over working on this draft, I really don't have the time to do it justice. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 08:11, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Announcing Binnen-I

Please come help improve the article Binnen-I. This is a non-standard typographic convention used with people nouns to indicate gender inclusivity in modern German. A bit of German, or an interest in feminist linguistics is a plus. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 04:40, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Female war heroes

We have a surprising lack of coverage of women war heroes here are some notable war heroes:

• Mary Roberts (nurse)
• Rita Virginia Rourke
• Magdalena Leone
• Linnie Leckrone
• Irene Robar

Valoem ^{talk contrib} 01:11, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Recent edits to Timeline of Women's education

I'm not sure what to make from these changes on Timeline of women's education by an unregistered editor. In general, I am happy they are including more information about european countries, however I feel like they are uncited and tend to downplay these early degree-earning women. maybe someone with more experience can review these for me? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Timeline_of_women%27s_education&type=revision&diff=841736779&oldid=841675819 Thanks Fred (talk) 05:33, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Adding an article - Portrayal of Academic Women in Film

Hello! I would like to add the article, Portrayal of academic women in film, to this WikiProject for my class. Acampbell1 (talk) 18:56, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Help fixing up an article?

I was wondering if someone would be willing to help work on an article, Feminist Rhetorical Ideas. The article is ultimately meant to be about feminist rhetoric, but it has been tagged as having issues with essay tones. I can help work on it, but since I have a COI by virtue of working with the class, it would definitely be helpful to have someone else assist as well. I'm also not as familiar with the topic area as I am with others, so help on that end would be awesome also. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:52, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

WikiProject collaboration notice from the Portals WikiProject

The reason I am contacting you is because there are one or more portals that fall under this subject, and the Portals WikiProject is currently undertaking a major drive to automate portals that may affect them.

Portals are being redesigned.

The new design features are being applied to existing portals.

At present, we are gearing up for a maintenance pass of portals in which the introduction section will be upgraded to no longer need a subpage. In place of static copied and pasted excerpts will be self-updating excerpts displayed through selective transclusion, using the template {{Transclude lead excerpt}}.

The discussion about this can be found here.

Maintainers of specific portals are encouraged to sign up as project members here, noting the portals they maintain, so that those portals are skipped by the maintenance pass. Currently, we are interested in upgrading neglected and abandoned portals. There will be opportunity for maintained portals to opt-in later, or the portal maintainers can handle upgrading (the portals they maintain) personally at any time.

Background

On April 8th, 2018, an RfC ("Request for comment") proposal was made to eliminate all portals and the portal namespace. On April 17th, the Portals WikiProject was rebooted to handle the revitalization of the portal system. On May 12th, the RfC was closed with the result to keep portals, by a margin of about 2 to 1 in favor of keeping portals.

There's an article in the current edition of the Signpost interviewing project members about the RfC and the Portals WikiProject.

Since the reboot, the Portals WikiProject has been busy building tools and components to upgrade portals.

So far, 84 editors have joined.

If you would like to keep abreast of what is happening with portals, see the newsletter archive.

If you have any questions about what is happening with portals or the Portals WikiProject, please post them on the WikiProject's talk page.

Thank you.    — The Transhumanist   07:36, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Women in Green – call for participants

Hello all – I'd like to invite you to join Women in Green, WikiProject Women's article improvement department. The department has not been an active project in the past, but we are now working on kickstarting new collaborative work between editors to improve existing articles about women and women's works. If this sounds like something you're interested in, please add your name to Women in Green's list of active participants! You can check out more details of our discussions so far on the Women in Green talk page, plus our collaboration proposal here. Alanna the Brave (talk) 23:47, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Wiki Women in Red - a proposed User Group

Having worked for 2 years editing articles for Women In Red, a group of organizers have concluded that sourcing is one of the biggest hurdles in creating articles on women and non-binary genders. Though it is true that a lot of sourcing simply doesn’t exist, it is also true that there are sources, but we have no access to them. As these groups did not typically become subjects for academic study until the 1970s, many of the sources are not on line or are behind paywalls. Failure to include women and non-binary people in the encyclopedia presents a one-dimensional view of society and history. To address those issues, we are forming a new User Group aimed at referencing and support for like-minded groups and would appreciate your input or input from your supporters in our organizational process. See link: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Women_in_Red MauraWen (talk) 08:50, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Calling a female scientist in Wikipedia movie plot by first name as if a child, while Professor and Father are referenced by last name

Is this sexist or not? To me this is not acceptable, please comment here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Film#Question_about_name_usage_over_at_Interstellar_(film) and here: Talk:Interstellar_(film) --Vigilius (talk) 20:43, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Proposed move: Radical lesbians → Radical lesbianism

Your opinion is welcome at a proposed move of Radical lesbians to Radical lesbianism. Please add your thoughts at Talk:Radical lesbians#Requested move 31 August 2018. Mathglot (talk) 08:16, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

RfC: Should there be an article on Emma Sulkowicz?

Hello! At Talk:Mattress Performance (Carry That Weight) § RfC, there is an RfC on the question "Should there be an article on Emma Sulkowicz?". You are being notified because the page is tagged as being of interest to this WikiProject. :) -sche (talk) 21:35, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Intersectionality

Hello, can someone check the Intersectionality page? The "Criticism" section was full of non notable and irrelevant content. Rupert Loup (talk) 12:09, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Hello again, there is currently an RfC in Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard#Intersectionality, comments are appreciated. Rupert Loup (talk) 10:56, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Featured quality source review RFC

Editors in this WikiProject may be interested in the featured quality source review RFC that has been ongoing. It would change the featured article candidate process (FAC) so that source reviews would need to occur prior to any other reviews for FAC. Your comments are appreciated. --IznoRepeat (talk) 21:39, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

WikiJournal of Humanities published first article

The WikiJournal of Humanities is a free, peer reviewed academic journal which aims to provide a new mechanism for ensuring the accuracy of Wikipedia's humanities, arts and social sciences content. We started it as a way of bridging the Wikipedia-academia gap. It is also part of a WikiJournal User Group along with Wiki.J.Med and Wiki.J.Sci. The journal is still starting out and not yet well known, so we are advertising ourselves to WikiProjects that might be interested.

Editors

• Invite submissions from non-wikipedians
• Coordinate the organisation of external academic peer review
• Format accepted articles
• Promote the journal

Authors

• New Wikipedia articles on topics that don't yet have a Wikipedia page, or only a stub/start
• Existing Wikipedia articles to be externally peer reviewed (analogous to GA / FA review - see submission page)
• Image articles, based around an important images, photographs or summary diagrams

If you want to know more, please see this recent interview with some WikiJournal editors, the journal's About page, or check out a comparison of similar initiatives. If you're interested, please come and discuss the project on the journal's talk page, or the general discussion page for the WikiJournal User group.

As an illustrative example, Wiki.J.Hum published its first article this month!

• Miles, Dudley; et al. (2018). "Æthelflæd, Lady of the Mercians". WikiJournal of Humanities. 1 (1): 1. doi:10.15347/wjh/2018.001. ISSN 2639-5347.

T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)^talk 09:35, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Neil Degrasse Tyson

There is an ongoing discussion that may be of interest to the members of this board at Talk:Neil_deGrasse_Tyson#Text_proposals. ResultingConstant (talk) 18:25, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Gender feminism merge discussion

Input is requested for a discussion at Talk:Gender feminism as to whether the contents of Gender feminism should be merged into other existing articles, and if so, whether the page should become a redirect or disambiguation page. Thank you. –Sangdeboeuf (talk) 02:56, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

Discussion re: lead image at Woman

Current lead image at Man

Current lead image at Woman

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Woman#A woman is more than a vagina?. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. ^Leviv_ich 04:49, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Toxic masculinity

There is currently a discussion ongoing about whether to make Toxic masculinity its own page. Interested editors may wish to participate at Talk:Hegemonic masculinity#Proposed split "Toxic masculinity". Thank you. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 00:06, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Looking for help

Hello,

Just I completed an article Aurat March regarding International Women's Day women's procession walk in Pakistan. I am looking for help in English language Spell-check, punctuation, grammar check and corrections reference & article review.

Thanks in advance.

Bookku (talk) 12:50, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

Requesting urgent help

Hi,

Just a while ago I completed my second article on Wikipedia namely Aurat_March - a Women's Day related article. while I was amidst to make correction and review request on various Wikipedia women projects. Some one has placed speedy deletion notice on the article for perceived copyright issue.

While most of the places I have tried to write in my own language, some of the third person statements reported by news portals may still need little corrections. While personally I do not think that is a serious copyright issue which can not be dealt with little more paraphrasing. But frankly I do not know how to deal with situation. Please help me either in necessary update or help me in transferring it to my sandbox page.

Bookku (talk) 13:25, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

RfC notice: Jewish religious clothing

A Request for Comment that may be relevant to this WikiProject is open at Talk:Jewish religious clothing § Request for Comment. Ibadibam (talk) 05:14, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Requested move: Chairman

For anyone interested, please see Talk:Chairman#Requested move 22 March 2019. SarahSV ^(talk) 01:22, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Contradiction between two articles

The Feminist separatism article and the Radical lesbianism article make different claims about the origin of Radical lesbianism. Your feedback is requested at Talk:Feminist separatism#Origin of radical lesbianism. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 07:35, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

RfC notice for Feminist Views on Transgender Topics

There is a Request for Comment on a topic relevant to this WikiProject going on at Talk:Feminist_views_on_transgender_topics regarding the page templates (and, more broadly, whether the page is NPOV or not). LokiTheLiar (talk) 23:01, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

proposal to change article name of Material Feminism to Materialist Feminism

We should probably open this up to discussion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Material_feminism Fred (talk) 15:57, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Requested move: Chairman

In case anyone is interested, see Talk:Chairman#Requested move 8 May 2019. SarahSV ^(talk) 23:20, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

Requested move (Masculism)

Hi all, your considered input would be appreciated here:

Talk:Masculism#Requested_move_13_May_2019

One proposal is to move the Masculism article to Masculinism and template:Masculism sidebar to template:Masculinism sidebar

An additional/counter proposal is to move template:Masculism sidebar to template:Boys and men sidebar and template:Masculinism to template:Boys and men

WanderingWanda (talk) 03:23, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

• Note: This notice originally presented the proposals incorrectly but this has now been corrected. WanderingWanda (talk) 19:29, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Men's studies: feedback needed

Can I get some feedback on whether the Men's studies article should be considered part of this WikiProject? To me, it seems like it should be:

Men's studies...is an interdisciplinary academic field devoted to topics concerning men, masculinity, feminism...

It draws upon feminist theory in order to analyze different ideologies having to do with masculinity

men's studies programs and courses often include contemporary discussions of men's rights, feminist theory, queer theory, matriarchy, patriarchy...They often discuss the issues surrounding male privilege

Should the feminism sidebar be added and should the article be added to this WikiProject? Thanks. WanderingWanda (talk) 16:51, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Honestly @WanderingWanda:, i think it's more the purview of WP:Gender Studies, but i see you've posted there as well. I am confused what you are asking here. These aspects are in the article, are you saying it should be in the lede? Regarding your other request on the masculinism article, I agree spell it with an n, keep the other as redirect. Seems a bit controversial. You might want to formally request it: Wikipedia:Requested_movesFred (talk) 17:16, 15 May 2019 (UTC) Oh, my bad, someone has already listed it there.Fred (talk) 17:18, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

I'm not asking if the article's text should be changed, no. Let me back up. I added the Feminism sidebar to the article because, based on how the article presented the subject of Men's studies, it seemed like feminism was a primary focus of the article. (I put the template alongside the Masculinism sidebar, which was already present in the article.) The Feminism sidebar was taken down by an editor who thought it didn't belong there. I'm now asking for guidance from this project about whether the article should have the Feminism sidebar (and/or a WikiProject Feminism template on the talk page.) WanderingWanda (talk) 17:28, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Feedback sought for merger discussion at Adrienne Rich

Your feedback would be appreciated at Talk:Adrienne Rich#Merge discussion. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 19:09, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Discussion of Uncommon Ground Media on the reliable sources noticeboard

There is a discussion on the reliability of Uncommon Ground Media's (uncommongroundmedia.com) coverage of Get the L Out on the reliable sources noticeboard. If you're interested, please participate at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard § UncommonGroundMedia. — Newslinger talk 08:28, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Formal equality

Please discuss at Talk:Gender_equality#Is_formal_equality_the_same_term_or_should_it_have_its_own_article? AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:20, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Having a bit of a problem at Women and video games

We seem to be reaching an impasse at Women and video games. The argument that is being made is that the article is overly "gynocentric". Third parties, other participants, and extra eyes would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -Thibbs (talk) 21:18, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Defining/relaying the concept of "woman" at the Woman article

Opinions are needed on the following matter: Talk:Woman#Proposed edits to lede. A permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 20:47, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

A related RfC has commenced: Talk:Woman#RfC: Article lead. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 03:49, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Sexual assaults covered up

I consider this as a meta-issue and find it appropriate to discuss. Currently, I am in a discussion at Talk:Neymar. But that's not my issue here, RFC is the place to go for that. My problem is that why are these types of issues getting covered up so often? Certainly a sexual assault allegation is not the same as a football transfer rumor, isn't it? Maybe this is a result of gender gap of registered users? I am up for open discussions. Interested articles are also up at Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost, the latest edition. THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 13:51, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

@ImmortalWizard: It's not clear what Signpost article in particular you are referencing, and it's not clear what the evidence is that this is a systemic problem rather than a particular content dispute you happen to be involved in. The answer you were given when you posted the same thread to the Teahouse was a fairly good one. Specifically, edits like this are wholly inappropriate under our standards for biographies of living people, and continuing to make such edits will likely result in sanctions.

Given that you have now posted this exact thread in at least three different places, that this thread clearly begs a question with regard to your content dispute, and that you are clearly pointing others to the same dispute, you should be cautioned that you may be giving the appearance that you are trying to canvass sympathetic editors to your ongoing dispute. GMG^talk 14:02, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

On no! I absolutely don't want any help with my dispute and I should have disclaimed earlier I am not canvassing. I am not sure either if it's enough of a systematic problem but pieces like Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2019-06-30/From the archives and Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2019-06-30/Discussion report I suppose raises the question and I believe it's worth investigating. THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 14:07, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

I am not certain who Neymar is, but if he/she is alive then Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons is quite clear on this subject:

• "This section (WP:BLPCRIME) applies to individuals who are not public figures; that is, individuals not covered by WP:WELLKNOWN. For relatively unknown people, editors must seriously consider not including material—in any article—that suggests the person has committed, or is accused of having committed, a crime, unless a conviction has been secured. A living person accused of a crime is presumed innocent until convicted by a court of law. Accusations, investigations and arrests do not amount to a conviction."
• "If different judicial proceedings result in seemingly contradictory outcomes that do not overrule each other, include all the explanatory information." Dimadick (talk) 11:09, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Neymar is one of the most popular footballers today. THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 18:44, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Missing article: Latina feminism

I've been working on some Latino articles, and noticed a gap in coverage: we don't have an article on Latina feminism. This topic is what it says: feminism among Latinas, primarily in the United States. The two articles that are closest, do not cover this topic, although one overlaps it. Chicana feminism overlaps it, but is only part of the story. Feminism in Latin America is not the same topic, although there is probably some intellectual cross-pollination back and forth. It might start with Gloria Anzaldúa's Borderlands/La Frontera, and could include María Lugones, Ofelia Schutte, Linda Alcoff, and Mariana Ortega. This might be a good jumping-off point:

• Ortega, Mariana (14 March 2016). In-Between: Latina Feminist Phenomenology, Multiplicity, and the Self. Albany, New York: SUNY Press. ISBN 978-1-4384-5978-3. OCLC 908287035.

My plate is full, plus I'll be out for a bit, so I wouldn't be able to get to this anytime soon, if ever, but I sure would like to see someone create it. Maybe down the road I could help out a bit. Dreamyshade, I believe you're plugged in to some groups that might be interested in this topic, can you help get it to the right people? Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 05:52, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

W:BLP/N discussion re inclusion of term "TERF" (trans-exclusionary radical feminists)

FYI, the W:BLP/N discussion Labeling or categorizing BLP subjects as TERFs or trans-exclusionary radical feminists, was opened on 3 August 2019. It contains sub-sections "Should Wikipedia state someone is a TERF or is transphobic in its voice, or should such a statement be given attribution?" and "RfC: Should we provide attribution when using "TERF" or "trans-exclusionary radical feminist" when describing BLP subjects?" (I'm surprised this project was not notified.) Pyxis Solitary yak 11:08, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Meghan Murphy bio

FYI: an RfC to replace the Meghan Murphy biography article as a "non controversial stub" has been requested: RfC to rebuild the Meghan Murphy biography. Pyxis Solitary yak 01:35, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

RFC of interest on Campus sexual assault

There is an RFC that may be of interest to participants in this Wiki-project. The RFC deals with how to characterize the academic research on campus sexual assault. Comments appreciated (link) Nblund ^talk 17:19, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

RFC at TERF

There's an RFC going on at Talk:TERF about how to attribute the term "transphobic". Loki (talk) 03:59, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Can anyone improve my translation?

I've been translating Ele Não movement from Portuguese. Can anyone make corrections? Thanks. --Bageense^(disc.) 15:26, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:People_v._Turner#Separate_article_for_Chanel_Miller?

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:People_v._Turner#Separate_article_for_Chanel_Miller?. Sdkb (talk) 21:29, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Women in Red's stub contest is starting now

Our three-month stub contest is starting now and will continue until the end of the year. Although there will be no physical prizes, each month (October, November and December) recognition will be given to the winners of two different sections: one for new stubs, the other for enhancing existing stubs to start class and beyond. The contest is open to all registered members of Women in Red. Join in now and help us improve women's coverage on Wikipedia.--Ipigott (talk) 19:30, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Human Rights- Commercial sexual exploitation of children

Wiki Loves Human Rights Child Trafficking

You are invited to join us for Wiki Loves Human Rights Child Trafficking. This year the Wikimedia Foundation has signed a Memerandum of Understanding to collaborate with the United Nations on advancing information on human rights within Wikimedia. Several projects will happen internationally starting from November 2019, which is around the anniversary of the universal declaration of human rights. I've initiated a project and collected topics on commercial sexual exploitation of children. It would be great if you'd support the project by translating articles, improving existing ones and writing new ones.

• You can sign up as a participant at: Wiki Loves Human Rights Child Trafficking - Participants.

--Sparrow (麻雀) 🐧 18:15, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

References

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool

Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Page move for disambiguation of ICC Men's T20 World Cup

Hi, I would like to bring all your attention that, a page move is requested by me to rename 2020 ICC T20 World Cup to 2020 ICC Men's T20 World Cup as later is the official name by ICC and also the logo of the tournament specifically display the later name which is also used in the article, secondly, both the tournament is going to take place at the same country and also same year and also the ICC Women's T20 World Cup will be before men's tournament. Thirdly, to bring disambiguity to the name of both tournament. And also the parent page ICC T20 World Cup consistency. I would like to have comments from any of the experienced editors at the move discussion, if only anyone like. Thank you. Dey subrata (talk) 21:14, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

List of serial rapist by number of victims

I recently came across this, and I'm not sure it's entirely appropriate for inclusion in Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_serial_rapists_by_number_of_victims 2.100.164.57 (talk) 18:30, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Listed for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of serial rapists by number of victims. Lmatt (talk) 00:00, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Mike Jerrick (news anchor) inappropriate behaviour

Added Sexism section to Mike Jerrick article (with 3 refs). Can you think of a better name for that section? Know of any references to back up phillymag.com's description of Mike? Thank you. --EarthFurst (talk) 21:52, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Unreadable sentence on Gender Studies page

Somebody please, please, rewrite this sentence from Gender studies. It makes no sense to the vast majority of readers and it seems to be plagiarism of terms from some writers. If no one can figure out what this means and rewrite it, it will have to go.

Feminist theory of psychoanalysis, articulated mainly by Julia Kristeva (the "semiotic" and "abjection") and Bracha L. Ettinger (the feminine-prematernal-maternal matrixial Eros of borderlinking and compassion, "matrixial trans-subjectivity" and the "primal mother-phantasies"), and informed both by Freud, Lacan and the object relations theory, is very influential in gender studies.

—Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 06:43, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

References

Referring to ships as "she"

FYI

 – Pointer to relevant discussion elsewhere.

Please see Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#"She" vs. "it" for ships. This is a perennial discussion that never seems to reach consensus. Notice of this round of discussion was sort of spammed to various ship- and military-related projects and pages (i.e., places of strong concentration of fans of using "she" for ships, and of male editors in particular), so I'm notifying some other wikiprojects and such that are apt to have wider views and demographics, for balance.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  09:36, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Seanna Leath

Please comment. Bearian (talk) 16:15, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

Valerie Purdie Greenaway

The same new editor who created Seanna Leath also created Valerie Purdie Greenaway (Purdie-Vaughns, Purdie). The latter looks notable to me, but the article could use a good look from someone more familiar with her subjects than I am. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 17:53, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

Draft:List of feminist anthems

Draft:List of feminist anthems, which I created and submitted to Wikipedia:Articles for creation today, was declined by User:AngusWOOF. Feminist anthem might be more appropriate than List of feminist anthems, but I think it is neutrally written and well-sourced. I have no idea how to improve it. It would be great if someone can use my draft and make it to the article. Cheers. 153.229.47.101 (talk) 21:10, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

It needs some context or perhaps an article about feminist anthems. Again, what would make it different from Category:Songs with feminist themes or Women's music? AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 01:10, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

I was thinking of some kind of writeup like Stadium anthem AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 04:40, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

Quoting Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and navigation templates#Overlapping categories, lists and navigation templates are not considered duplicative: "It is neither improper nor uncommon to simultaneously have a category, a list, and a navigation template which all cover the same topic. These systems of organizing information are considered to be complementary, not inappropriately duplicative." For example, see List of birthday songs and Category:Songs about birthdays; List of anti-war songs and Category:Anti-war songs; List of train songs and Category:Songs about trains. 153.165.88.19 (talk) 07:08, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

Request of Help

I was looking for some small help. I created an article User:Bookku/Me Too movement (Pakistan) in user namespace. Article is almost ready but before taking to main namespace Looking for help in English language Spell-check, punctuation, grammar check and corrections. Using better alternative words etc. Thanks in advance.

Bookku (talk) 14:17, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

RfC: Male privilege

There's an RfC at Talk:Male privilege#RfC about sociological concept vs phenomenon about whether the first sentence of the article should define Male privilege as a concept in sociology or as a phenomenon that indisputably exists. More editor input is needed. Thanks. NightHeron (talk) 00:47, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

John Oliver

FYI, a slightly silly question on Talk:Kim Iversen#Feminist. –84.46.52.170 (talk) 21:36, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Now Talk:John Oliver#Feminist, folks agreed that Kim Iversen shouldn't be listed, for a portal example see Hannah Witton. –84.46.52.79 (talk) 06:42, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

AfD: Church Fathers and abortion

There is a discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Church Fathers and abortion that might interest editors of this WikiProject. NightHeron (talk) 02:34, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jan Guenther Braun

Please discuss there. Bearian (talk) 13:57, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Requesting support

Hello,

Requesting to add women's rights issue article Aurat March to your 'watch list' during week of International Women's Day .

While I am steadily working on article to improve further as suggested in notification template. Article is coming across repeat anon vandalism of intentional misogynistic hate against women's movement plus some un-sourced original research attacks.

It seems to be , being women's day around I worry this vandalism may get repeated.

Please see if you can add article Aurat March to your 'watch list' at least until 12/15 March so any repetition of intentional vandalism can be duly reversed.

Thanks & warm regards

Bookku (talk) 07:09, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Battered woman syndrome vs. battered person syndrome

Opinions are needed on the following: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine#Battered woman syndrome vs. battered person syndrome. A permalink for it is here. Please read the arguments before weighing in. Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 23:59, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

RfC

An RfC has been opened to decide the question "Should the Battered woman syndrome and Battered person syndrome articles be merged so that the medical and legal aspects defined under the terms "battered woman syndrome" and "battered person syndrome" are covered in one article?". The RfC is at Talk:Battered woman syndrome #RfC: Should this article and the Battered person syndrome article be merged?. As one of the articles is within the scope of your WikiProject, you may wish to comment there. --RexxS (talk) 01:10, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Draft:I-Cut

I created the page about the mobile application iCut, providing help to women and young girls in order to fight against Female Genital mutilation in Kenya. Unfortunately, the page is still "drafting" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:I-Cut?fbclid=IwAR3X0FnQxbgtMepObXatxzeKXZs7uLEKBhZAvaGVvVQC2e5bMGuGkJSx4SE — Preceding unsigned comment added by PerrineMathilde (talk • contribs) 09:59, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Article adoption request

Hi,

Marvi Sirmed is a feminist & human rights activist from Pakistan. If more people do not come forward it won't be a supersize that article Marvi Sirmed likely to get credit of most misogynist hate attacked, defamed & vandalized Pakistani feminist article on English Wikipedia.

So making this article adoption request to rescue & protect the same.

Thanks & warm regards

Bookku (talk) 14:24, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

I've added the article to my watchlist. Kaldari (talk) 04:26, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Transnational Psychology Page

Hello all!

I am working on a project for a Transnational Feminism Gender Studies course and am looking for some advice/approval on my proposed edits. My goal is to create a page for Transnational Psychology (as it does not yet exist) and add links to the page from other related topics. As I am new to editing on Wikipedia, is there a standard protocol for removing sections entirely from one page once its stand-alone page is up and the original becomes redundant?

Thanks in advance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ejohnson2020 (talk • contribs) 18:40, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Requesting opinion on a page move request.

Hello,

@ Talk:Aurat (disambiguation)#Requested_move_11_May_2020 is taking place about article relating to women of mainly of Asian origin. In Past 2 days only two opinions are received and more opinions will be preferable. Thanks for your opinion and participation in discussion.

Bookku (talk) 11:57, 13 May 2020 (UTC)