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Chicken (food)

Is the Chicken (food) article a part of this WikiProject? I couldn't find any information on its main page or talk page that it was part of this WikiProject, and the article could use some more work. Also, I'd like to be a part of this WikiProject, so if someone could give me more information on how I can join, I'd appreciate it.--Grendlefuzz 14:45, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

I just joined myself, but all WikiProjects are the same; if you want to join, just sign up at the project page. As for chicken (food), it seems to me as it is well within the scope of the project.

Peter ^Isotalo 15:05, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Food history

Would anyone be interested in helping out in organizing some basic main articles for food history? There has been a proposal for a separate food history project on the project page, but I think this might just as well be handled by this project. Drop me a line on my talkpage or make a comment here.

Peter ^Isotalo 13:44, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I think food history falls within this WikiProject. I also think it'd be excellent to have one of those organized box things (templates?) at the bottom of related projects, with categories such as "Food History," "Dairy," "Vegetables," etc. That way, there'd be easy links between all food articles.--Grendlefuzz 16:26, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Are you referring to an article template like Template:History of Europe or one for use in projects?

Peter ^Isotalo 18:30, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm referring to use of an article template, like the one you included a link to.--Grendlefuzz 09:06, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

The main template would be Template:Cuisine, but the choice of topics feels a tad random. But we need to be careful about what to include so it doesn't turn into a space-hogging monstrosity like Template:Jews and Judaism sidebar.

To the best of my knowledge there's no main article on food history, and I'm unsure if food history would be the right title, because then what would history of cuisine be? Are the two really distinct enough from one another?

Peter ^Isotalo 10:14, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

If one was to get too into semantics, then "food history" could refer to the history of actual ingredients and their consumption, and predate "history of cuisine," which would focus more on the actual preparation of such ingredients and perhaps cooking utensils and methods as well. That said, I think one article entitled "History of Food" or "History of Cuisine" would be preferrable, and any attempted searches for similar titles would link to that article. Dividing it up into multiple articles would be somewhat silly, at least to most people.

As for the template, the space issue is a good point. Perhaps just links to major categories of food (dairy, meat, vegetables, etc), would do, as long as within those categories there is a more specific template. Still, I don't think that's necessarily a priority.

--Grendlefuzz 09:31, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I would argue that history of cuisine should be the title of choice, since the mere act of cooking, no matter how primitive, means there is some type of human culture involved, and anything that doesn't involve cooking seems to me like being belonging to paleontology rather than history. Prehistoric food, like what the early ancestors of humans ate, could be summarized under the title "Prehistory" in the cuisine article.

Personally, I'm not too fond of the layout of the cuisine template. I would prefer something more neutral in appearance and, frankly, without the picture. To me it makes it looks more like it belongs in a fashionable cookbook than an encyclopedia.

Peter ^Isotalo 12:54, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Cuisine template

I've started a template that can be used to apply a standard structure for articles on cuisines. It's intended to be applicable to any such article whether it be regional, national, historical, religious and ethnic. It has a lot of recommendations on what should be described in such an article. I've linked it from the main page.

Peter ^Isotalo 16:35, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Comment

Even if this is not helpful, it must be known that food and drink are tasty. 86.129.93.251 00:06, 25 March 2007 (UTC)