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Black River Formation

I was planning to send this article to Afd as its been badly sourced since it was created. I was reviewing it. It seems to duplicate content found in Black River Group. The editor who reverted gave the reason Wikipedia:Wikiproject Geology/Notability#Stratigraphic units for reverted when I redirect it. That is not a policy or a guideline, so i'm curious as to why the editor is edit-warring to keep it. scope_creep^Talk 14:23, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Presumed notable is not the same as worth keeping. Chances are they're the same thing, but I'll take a closer look tomorrow. At least I can't seem to find any sources that refer to both on a quick look. --Licks-rocks (talk) 20:39, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Scope creep, the reasoning the merge of BRF to BRG is gaining support does not apply to the proposed merges you have suggested at other formations, can you please not unilaterally decide to completely ignore essays. Essays exist for a reason. Lavalizard101 (talk) 19:26, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Quality assessment of Geologic Time Scale - A-class?

Requesting independent class assessment of Geologic Time Scale. The article was rightfully demoted from Featured Article in 2004, and then assessed as a B-class article. Since then it has undergone significant revision, particularly in the past two years in which I significantly overhauled the article. I think it may now qualify for an A-class status, and will seek mentorship GA/FA nomination as well. Any commentary on how the article and/or lead image could be improved is welcome. Jarred C Lloyd (talk) 01:56, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

This project does not appear to support A-class assessment. So I suggest that you ask for a peer-review of content from here. Possible a GA nomination could be a way to change the assessment. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 02:03, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

The Rater tool which analyzes articles based on some kind of machine metrics derived from other articles puts the article at 40% B. In my experience top B articles are 90%+. It's not fool proof to be sure, but it's a hint. The A rating is not really a thing, AFAICT. Rather, the system is Stub, Start, C, B, GA, FA.

If you go through the WP:Good article criteria list you will get plenty of ideas for the next step. The toughest one is verifiable references, eg "Table of geologic time" is missing refs. In particular, wikilinks are not references. The peer review suggested above can help with the question of coverage. Johnjbarton (talk) 02:11, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

I will mention: there is inadequate coverage of colour codes, and Anthropocene proposal info is out of date. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 03:07, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback so far, I did ask for a peer-review a few months ago and it only got a few minor comments. If either of you have the time and feel up to providing a peer-review I'm happy to start a new one.

I'm thinking GAN will be a good way to get additional feedback and a potential class change; however, it will immediately fail under the verifiable refs criteria even though it is propbably acceptable under all other criteria. While the remainder of the article is now well cited (with a few updates to specific sections needed e.g. Anthropocene being voted against by the subcommission), the "Table of geologic time" events column is going to be a problem. Many events have been added to it over the years without citations, and it will be a Hurculean effort to find the citations for all the existing content. Any ideas on how to proceed with rectifying that issue over time?

On the other point raised around the coverage of colour codes, do you have any specific suggestions as to what a section on that should contain, is it really neccessary given they are relatively arbitrary? Jarred C Lloyd (talk) 09:59, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

If decent textbooks like Stanley 2015 and Torsvik & Cocks 2017 are good references then referencing the Table of geologic time may not be quite as bad as it appears. If this is considered a worthwhile exercise, I don't mind making a start on it. Silica Cat (talk) 10:47, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

And any unsourced content can be deleted. Johnjbarton (talk) 16:17, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

I've never understood why there's such a thing as an A-class rank in the first place. I've never seen it used much throughout my 18 years as a Wikipedian. Volcanoguy 16:26, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

It was made to prioritize articles for the Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team project. I would dearly scrap it at least for the Volcanoes wikiproject, though. No need to keep this particular piece of red tape going. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 16:57, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

Merging Theia (planet) into Giant impact hypothesis

I have proposed merging Theia (planet) into Giant impact hypothesis, see Talk:Giant-impact_hypothesis#Proposal_to_merge_Theia_(planet)_into_this_article. Participate if interested. Thanks Hemiauchenia (talk) 03:06, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Input please on Polymetallic ore

The page Polymetallic ore has been restored after an RfC about it. I have done some editing which I think is about OK, but as I am not an expert in either mining or geology I might not have included the right refs, there could be things missing or mistakes. I would appreciate expert input from those of you who know more. Ldm1954 (talk) 13:46, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Adolf Peretti draft at AfC

Resolved

On behalf of the subject and as part of my work at Beutler Ink, I have submitted a draft article about Adolf Peretti for review, if any project members are interested in taking a look. I have disclosed my COI on the draft and its Talk page, and will avoid editing the main space. Thanks! Inkian Jason (talk) 18:38, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

The draft was taken live. Thanks! Inkian Jason (talk) 19:03, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Rename/Move of all tectonic plate names - Proposal discussion

A proposal to rename/move the articles for Earth's tectonic plates is being discussed at Talk:Eurasian_Plate#Requested_move_6_October_2024. The rename involves changing the word "plate" to lowercase; for example, change from e.g. "Eurasian Plate" to "Eurasian plate". The proposal currently lists 74 plates. Participation in the discussion is welcome. GeoWriter (talk) 11:59, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

This RM to lowercase the world's tectonic plates was relisted on October 15. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:18, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!

Hello, Please note that Longshore drift, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of the Articles for improvement. The article is scheduled to appear on Wikipedia's Community portal in the "Articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing! Delivered by — MusikBot talk 00:05, 14 October 2024 (UTC) on behalf of the AFI team

Good article reassessment for Earth's magnetic field

Earth's magnetic field has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 15:28, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Eric & Matthew Gilbert, PhD sites being used as a reference on mountaineering and peak heights

I've started a reliable sources discussion at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Eric_&_Matthew_Gilbert,_PhD_site_at_https://www.countryhighpoints.com/about/ Is there website of any credibility for anything mountain/geology related? https://www.countryhighpoints.com/about/ I've seen this WP:SPS used to support claims related to mountains. Eric has an h-index of 5, and being cited by peers in things like gas valve safety, but not on geology matter and I would for example not cite a geologist for mechanical engineering stuff. I don't think they clear the WP:EXPERTSPS hurdle for mountain peaks. Graywalls (talk) 13:38, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Also, argument over sourcing for mountain related values like heights, and discussion about the source peakbagger.com at Talk:Mount_Rainier Graywalls (talk) 05:20, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Geyser

Geyser has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 22:33, 23 October 2024 (UTC)