Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history/April 2018 Milhist Backlog Drive

Tagging/Adding/Assessing of non-article pages

@WP:MILHIST coordinators: , I have a question in regards to the drive. What about the tagging and adding of non-article pages? I specifically mean stuff like categories and redirects. Also what about their assessment (as they´re not assessed against B-class criteria but simply classified)? Any place for that in the drive? Thanks in advance ...GELongstreet (talk) 11:46, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

I believe you should be able to get up to two points per non-article tagged (tag and taskforces). -- Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 12:59, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

G'day, yes, that seems fine to me. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 02:47, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Does this include templates as well? How about non-commmons images and disambiguation pages? ...GELongstreet (talk) 21:10, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Yes, those seem fine to me. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 07:38, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Linking to the drive

Would it be possible to put a link to the drive page on the main WikiProject page or perhaps the Contests page? I feel it could be made a little easier to direct editors here if they didn't get a link on their talk page. (At the moment there are only four Wikipedia-namespace links to the drive page, and they're all subpages.) Thanks! – Reidgreg (talk) 14:18, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

G'day, I've added a link to it on Template:WPMILHIST Announcements, which displays at the top of the project's main talk page, which should hopefully add a bit more visibility. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 03:17, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Tagging for task forces

When tagging articles for task forces, does that have to be through the main {{WikiProject Military History}} template? For example, Template:WikiProject Canada has a parameter for the Canadian military history task force. Would tagging through that count for the drive, or does it have to be through the WikiProject Military History template? Is it preferred to have both of the WikiProject templates, but mark the task force on only one of them? – Reidgreg (talk) 14:01, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Probably best to have both, as I'm not sure if the articles show in the Milhist taskforce categories without the Milhist template. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 01:03, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

BTW: It agrees with you at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/War films task force where it says to add the task force under both banners (in that case, milhist and wp:film). – Reidgreg (talk) 20:56, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

I've done a lot of tagging and I'm wondering if I'm scoring myself correctly. Note 2 on the instructions says If an article is already assigned to a task force, points can still be claimed if a new (relevant) task force is added. The plural "points" has me thinking that you get 1 point for each task force added to an article. eg: adding 5 task forces to an article is worth 5 points. I don't see anything contradicting that in the instructions, but it feels like too many points for the work. – Reidgreg (talk) 20:38, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

@Reidgreg: G'day, thanks for asking. The intent is that it is only 1 point regardless of how many task forces are added. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 00:33, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

I don't see anyone else making this mistake, but perhaps the table could be refined as: Adding an article or non article page to a MILHIST task force → Adding MILHIST task force(s) to an article or non-article talk page. And maybe a couple other task force → task force(s). Thanks, I appreciate the work that goes into running these contests and drives! – Reidgreg (talk) 14:00, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Adjusted the wording now. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 10:36, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Assessing articles

I notice the worklist headers just state "Articles assessed" whilst the instructions refer specifically to the B-class criteria. Does assessing articles as stubs count (where the B-class criteria aren't used)? - Dumelow (talk) 07:10, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

G'day, yes, I've adjusted the note to clarify this. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 08:49, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Completing B-class assessment

At the time of writing, there are 325 articles that have incomplete B-class checklists. Would these count for item 3 (Assessing an article against the Milhist B-class criteria) for the purpose of the drive? — Sasuke Sarutobi (talk) 14:04, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

@WP:MILHIST coordinators: - Pinging the co-ords for a response. In my opinion I can't see why not - it is a backlog that could do with clearing and assessing for only some of the criteria doesn't take much less time/effort than assessing for all - Dumelow (talk) 17:53, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, Dumelow. And to be honest, that's why I wondered if it counted for the same point score — I would see it as arguably less work, hence my question over having a point score equal to a full assessment, but I suppose that also applies to running B-class assessments on articles of different length as well. — Sasuke Sarutobi (talk) 18:04, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

G'day, yes this counts. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 07:38, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Finalising worklists

G'day all, the drive has now concluded. Thank you to all who participated. Can I please ask that participants please finalise their worklists? When doing so, please only include work that was concluded between 1 and 30 April. I will wait 24 hours or so, and then look to archive the page, so that tallying can commence. Cheers, AustralianRupert (talk) 01:25, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

This was the most fun I've had in a long time on Wikipedia. Thank you to the organizers. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 01:51, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

@WP:MILHIST coordinators: Hi, I'm quite busy in real life, to the point of being less productive than last year's drive. Can I have until end of May 2nd to finish my worklist please? Thanks, DPdH (talk) 15:34, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

@DPdH: No worries. I will probably close it when I get home from work tomorrow, around this time (plus or minus a little). Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 05:09, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

@Auntieruth55: G'day, Ruth, I notice you have added your name to the worklist, but not included any entries. Did you have any that you'd like to add? Cheers, AustralianRupert (talk) 05:12, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

From what I can tell there are a few editors who have signed up for the drive, but have not submitted worklists. Can I please ask that those who have not submitted worklists, who still wish to participate, add their worklists here? I think this affects the following editors: Ipigott, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga, Robinvp11, Tbrazier, NoetherianRing, Raavi Mohanty and Seraphim System. Please note, closing co-ords can really only go off what you have on your worklist. @Cdjp1: To help me out, can I please ask that you take the extra day that is being given per the above, to finalise your worklist too? Thank you. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 06:05, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

I completely forgot about this, sounds like I missed out. Seraphim System ^(talk) 06:09, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

As you pinged me, I tried to find out where to list the articles but it seemed very complicated. In any case, I think I only created two: Lone Træholt and Jette Albinus. I'm not really interested in the competition but appreciate the encouragement you have given to improvements in the coverage of military history.--Ipigott (talk) 06:38, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

G'day, no worries, thanks for your efforts with those articles. The worklist page can be found here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/April 2018 Milhist Backlog Drive/Worklists. I can add them for you if you would like. Please just let me know. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 07:18, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Drive's outcomes - Any planned netrics please?

@WP:MILHIST coordinators: Hi, as someone said this "drive" has been fun... as well as useful. Once everything is tallied, can any "overall performance metrics" be published? E.g.: percentage of articles assessed vs initial backlog (among others). To show the value of all this collective effort. Thanks! DPdH (talk) 13:52, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

G'day, I will be working on the tally shortly and will post some stats in The Bugle. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 06:03, 3 May 2018 (UTC)