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Interesting. Thanks for mentioning our presentation. The Prezi can be seen in our Wikimania presentation: File:Wikimania 2024 - Dilijan - Day 1 - Exploring Americanization in different regions of the world using Wikipedia and Wikidata.webm. You may also want to check our paper on this, that the presentation was based on, published earlier this year: Americanization: Coverage of American Topics in Different Wikipedias. Accessible through WP:Wikipedia Library, I hope (not in LibGen yet, sorry...). No OA as WMF does not support grants for OA on Wikipedia studies (we asked), and no other funding source was available. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 00:44, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Now, comments on your analysis. 1) I'd nitpick not adding Australia and New Zealand to the Western world, but let's face it - their numbers are not likely to be very game changing. (Sorry, Aussies... I don't even know what is the nickname for New Zealanders...) 2) I understand very well why you have no Asian group (it's a pain to make); I'd still suggest having at least Japanese for some decent-ish comparison. Also I'd add German, as well as Russia to the set, those are big wikis (see also below). 3) Riding on - let's remember that Spanish and Portuguese significantly represent Latin America (you mention this for Spanish, but you seem to have forgotten Brazil...we have data from few years ago on views and edits to wiki by country - see [1] and [2]; sadly they are a few years old, the new Wikipedia Stats pages suck and if that information is still somewhere, I was never able to find it...), and English also includes many readers and contributors from India. Again, if anyone is interested in more, see our paper, we have like two page limitation chapter discussing this stuff. Anyway, the point is that the numbers above are not pure 'Western' world and to some degree (hard to estimate quickly) include Latin America and India. French is probably the 'purest', although it is popular in some African countries. That's why German would be very good here (big Western wiki not used much outside Europe). Russia would be good, since they not really 'West' (nor 'Asia'; Russia is, well, Russia). 4) As for the numbers, it's fascinating to see how different Arab numbers are, I'd love to learn more about what kind of people are and aren't discussed on Arab wiki, compared to 'Western'. 5) What's wrong with the table data for Arab and Culture? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:08, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, Kiwis. Jim.henderson (talk) 02:17, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, right, I forgot... :P Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:24, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
I guess it's a basic understanding in eastern world editors that their is a supremecy of the so called west in term of equal distribution of content.––kemel49(connect)(contri) 00:48, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
While bringing a spotlight to a specific region with a new article is pretty doable (love seeing articles dedicated to specific fields in specific countries), trying to bring up a non-canonical region in a broad-topic article tends to be controversial. Here's one experience I've had with this, for example, trying to add a little section on Latin America in the History of video games. (Same with Africa but I'm not sure when that was removed) ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 08:23, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
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