Category talk:American Methodists by state or territory

Opposed speedy move request

• Category:American Methodists by state or territory to Category:American Methodists by state – C2C. To make the name consistant with other similar categories in Category:American Protestants by state. Additionally, the category contains Christians by states ONLY; territories have a seperate category. Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:00, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

  Oppose. I don't see the benefit of narrowing the category. Mason (talk) 21:16, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

  @Mason, because it only contains Methodists by state, not territories. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:25, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

  Ok, but how does that create a benefit for narrowing the category? Are there no Puerto Rican methodists? Mason (talk) 21:29, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

  @Mason, as far as I can tell, territories have seperate categories. There are Roman Catholics in Puerto Rico, for example, as well but the category is not in Category:American Roman Catholics by state.

  My reasoning for changing the name was to make it consistant with other categories and to make the name more accurate. BUT if there is a push to combine religious people by states and territories, that would indeed be better for navigating. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:34, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

  Some do, and some don't. "There are Roman Catholics in Puerto Rico, for example, as well but the category is not in Category:American Roman Catholics by state." that's correct because the name is "by state". But i think it's important to ask what the defining feature is for the category, rather than just trying to force categories to fit into the current structure. Mason (talk) 21:39, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

  @Mason, understood. Thank you for explaining. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:55, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

  Oppose. The correct format should always be ... by state or territory for all American categories, per the parent Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. This format was preferred in many community discussions. The logic of category diffusion should be that large categories should be split along geographical lines, and there is no reason to limit this logic to states and exclude Washington D.C., historic and present-day territories etc. Place Clichy (talk) 20:34, 1 December 2023 (UTC)