Category talk:American people of German descent
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editThis this a category based on nationality or based on ethnicity? --Fastfission 06:43, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Ethnicity and Nationality. Canaduh
Why are there people in it who were 100% born in the USA mixed in with people who were born in Germany and emigrated? Can we come up with some guidelines for inclusion? --Fastfission 10:50, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Are Jews who are decended from immigrants from Germany considered German Americans or Jewish Americans?
I think it would be better to use this category for Americans of German descent, not Germans who became US citizens. We have a Category:Naturalized citizens of the United States for those anyway. But it would be nice if there was some guideline as to how German you have to be. Some people in these categories have a German great-great-grandparent or something similar. JW 13:20, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
I've been adding a lot of people to this, I used the standard that if they are at least 1/4 German, they can go in. If it's any less, no. 130.113.111.203 19:48, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
I think its culturally and historically insensitive to have Jews on a list of Germans, could they pleased be removed? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.141.217.93 (talk • contribs) 04:17, November 1, 2005 (UTC)
- Insensitive to whom? --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 05:21, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
- Jews. Jews in America don't consider themselves German even if they have roots in Germany, the reasons for this are quite obvious; namely 6 million of them dead at the hands of the Nazis. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.141.217.93 (talk • contribs) 02:14, November 2, 2005 (UTC)
- Please sign your postings by appending four tildes ~~~~. Regarding the insensitivity of it, we'll have to agree to differ on this. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 02:38, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
- Maybe we should have a vote and establish whether or not Jews, Austrians and Switzerlanders in America count as German-Americans or not? Personally I'd like to hear Jewish opinion on the matter. 24.36.120.13 21:05, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
- Nice try. --Lysy (talk) 22:43, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
Ummm... I don't think this has any Jews on it - except maybe ones born in Germany. Most Jews are just listed as "Jewish Americans" regardless of where their ancestors came from, since "something-American" obviously denotes an ethnicity, which "Jewish" is.Vulturell 08:55, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
- Well, of course it has Jews on it, including Albert Einstein, Henry Kissinger, Gloria Steinem, and Ruth Westheimer. I believe all were born in Germany or were German citizens. Jayjg (talk) 18:13, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
- Gloria Steinem? C'mon. You must know something. She is an American by birth. Her father is Jewish and the reason she is under German-Americans (I put her there, naturally) is because her mother is of ethnic German descent.Vulturell 18:35, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
- I must know something? Well, I don't know what you meant by that, nor am I sure how your response would be relevant for Einstein, Kissinger, or Westheimer. Or do you assert that they are/were not Jews? Jayjg (talk) 18:50, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
- No, I had left Einstein, Kissiner and Westheimer behind and was just talking about Steinem. I meant that surely you must know she's an American and not German by birth.Vulturell 19:12, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
- I must know something? Well, I don't know what you meant by that, nor am I sure how your response would be relevant for Einstein, Kissinger, or Westheimer. Or do you assert that they are/were not Jews? Jayjg (talk) 18:50, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
Wait a minute, did the user 24.141.217.93 really suggest to do a SELECTION between Germans and Jews? Yeah, let us do a little selection and TERMINATE the ones in the list which are jewish. This isn`t simply "insensitve" this is stupid, stunningly ahistorical and inappropriate! --Sushi Leone (talk) 23:03, 23 October 2009 (UTC)