Category talk:Cars powered by boxer engines
Should aircraft also be included?(Dddike (talk) 00:02, 29 December 2007 (UTC))
you could make subcategory maybe...--— Typ932T | C 00:20, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
- This category could be named as Vehicles with flat engines, because technically 180 degree V12 isnt boxer, its flat--— Typ932T | C 00:27, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
I see your point but I think the public equates boxer, flat and horizontal engines as the same thing. If it was re-named, which I haven't learned how to do yet, would every vehicle that has been linked to this category change to the new name? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dddike (talk • contribs) 21:46, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
- Im not sure maybe--— Typ932T | C 21:53, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Maybe it should be left as is and see if someone else has a different contribution.(Dddike (talk) 21:59, 29 December 2007 (UTC))
- yep--— Typ932T | C 22:00, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
I notice the recent creation of Category:Vehicles with boxer engines which purports to contain vehicles where "...the horizontal piston layout classifies them as boxer, horizontal or flat engines.". If the category is intended to include all flat engines, then is "Vehicles with boxer engines" a suitable name for it? Aren't there some flat engines which aren't boxers? Note that I'm not an expert in this area, so I'm happy to be corrected. DH85868993 (talk) 23:56, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
- 180 degree V12 is maybe better say flat-12...so that article name could be with flat engines--— Typ932T | C 00:25, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
- I was under the impression that flat and boxer engines were one and the same, but it looks like there's a small technical distinction. I'm not convinced that this category would survive the scrutiny of the WP:OCAT people, since I don't know how many of those cars use the engine configuration as a significant feature. Is there a category for V- W- or inline-engined vehicles? Even ignoring that, it should certainly follow the parent page's naming convention. I'd take this to WP:CfD and get it renamed to Category:Vehicles with flat engines. --DeLarge (talk) 16:05, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Hello, I created this category because the flat engine is not a widely used platform, which is currently being used actively by only three companies: Subaru, Porsche for cars and BMW for motorcycles. European countries usually refer to the flat engine as "boxer" and there exists a photo of the Subaru flat-6 using both words, "boxer" and "H", refering to the term Horizontal on the engine cover. Is it my opinion that creating a category for engines using the "V" and inline or straight engine is unnecessary because they are widely used and a large percentage of the general public is familiar with those engine configurations. Currently, only Volkswagen AG uses the "W" configuration, which can also be regarded as a twin "V", so a category for the "W" isn't necessary because only one company uses and created it.
After creating this category, obscure vehicles, such as defunct manufacturers like Jowett, Golaith, Panhard, and Namco (a Greek manufacturer) were lost in obscurity until they were brought to light by having a flat engine. I think the purpose of Wikipedia is to educate about subjects that are rarely mentioned and now readers can learn about unknown facts, and may even encourage others to add to these obscure manufacturers.
I welcome any comments anyone might have on this subject. (Dddike (talk) 20:34, 9 January 2008 (UTC))
Possible subcategories
editI would like to suggest splitting this category into the following subcategories-
- Automobiles with boxer engines
- Motorcycles with boxer engines
- Aircraft with boxer engines
- Aircraft with Volkswagen engines