Category talk:Esoteric schools of thought

Ambiguous Title

(copyed from page of discussion of Category_talk:Schools_of_Thought#Ambiguous_Title)

When seen in the context of the broader categries, this title is clear enough. However, when seen at the bottom of an article, it is too ambiguous. Perhaps a better title might be, "Esoteric Schools of Thought." RDF 02:42, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Agree of course! :) Presenting the name "Esoteric Schools of Thought" as you did at the description of the Category should be enough, since the term "school of thought" is a term employed already by "esoteric schools" to describe themselves in a low profile way. If you think is better to change the Category to "Esoteric Schools of Thought" is also Ok. I joined the "Mystery religions" inside "Schools of Thought" with a description since, as I understand it, they have been always connected as a sort of "emanation" of the Mystery Schools. What do you say? --GalaazV 12:12, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

When you're navigating this group of categories and subcategories, it looks fine because it's in the relevant context. But when you go to an article like Rosicrucian Fellowship, an unfamiliar reader won't necessarily know what "type" of school of thought it is. That's where I think the confusion will occur.  :-) RDF 13:18, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Good point! :), may I ask you please to take care of those changes (the articles and subcats have to be changed again to comply with new title)? Got to go working right now... See you, and I'll write again answering your earlier very nice words. --GalaazV 13:23, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

I don't know how to "undo" or change an article title, so I can't do that. I could help with redirecting some articles later on though. As far as the organization of the categories goes, I'm really not all that familiar with the Mystery Schools as a loosely connected contemporary movement, so I'm happy to defer to you judgment on that. An interesting categorization question would seem to be how many of the older traditions, like Sufism, that aren't typically thought of as having common elements with the contemporary Western movements fit here. That's where some "traditionalists" might balk at being associated together with "derivative" movements.  :-) RDF 13:38, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Back! You are right my friend. Let's try to work on that subject and try to clarify it as we advance. For now, the new Category "Esoteric Schools of Thought" is created and going to redirect this one to there with "#REDIRECT [Category:Esoteric Schools of Thought]", hope it works lol also copying this page of discussion into that new Category--GalaazV 15:00, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Cool! I assume you just can't "fix" a title. Do you have to start a new article then go through all those convolutions??? Maybe "we" could pick a high-level category (you pick one) and then start an outline with all the broader, related, and narrower categories in one place so it's easier to see how they fit together. >;-o) RDF 16:00, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Well, I did not know how to change titles, and if it is possible; so, started a new one :). Anyway, the hierarchical structure starts like:

• Culture -> Religion
  • Religious faiths, traditions... -> Esotericism
  • Religious behaviours... -> Esotericism
  • Religious behaviours... -> Spirituality -> Esotericism

Now I was thinking like the category "Esotericism" to contain some articles of the whole category: "Esotericism" (main), "Esoteric knowledge", "Esoteric", "Esoteric", "Mystery religions", "Astrology", "Occult", "Mysticism" (those which may give a view of what this is all about. Then these and the other articles to fit in the respective sub-categories.

When we make hierarchical structure at the same time it narrows the possibility of being seen, so the articles have other categories; I think an important work is to make a coherent use of the other categories inside the articles (many of them belonging to "Metaphysics", "Paranormal", etc.; for example: the subtle bodies articles may also be under the same type category in a "Paranormal" category). And also the "See also" section restricted to related subjects. This way there is more possibility of other users to come in touch to these type of knowledge and in a way more comprehensible. What do your think? --GalaazV 18:02, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Sounds like a plan! :-)