Category talk:Flagship universities in the United States

List of flagship Universities

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Sandcherry (talk) 16:33, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

I posted this somewhere else but it deserves to also be listed here to clear up any potential confusion.

Below I have listed the respective flagship universities of each state. The source is College Board and an annual survey of colleges. College board has been putting out this type list comparing flagship prices for many years now, and it just got updated for the 16-17 year.

I will also include some other sources like from the US Department of Education - ERIC which lists each state flagship, recognized by the United States Government- https://eric.ed.gov/?id=ED495096

And from the Washington Higher Education Coordinating Board (government report) - http://www.wsac.wa.gov/sites/default/files/TuitionandFees2009-10Report-Final.pdf

List below copied from https://trends.collegeboard.org/college-pricing/figures-tables/tuition-fees-flagship-universities-over-time

University of Alaska Fairbanks AK
University of Alabama AL
University of Arkansas AR
University of Arizona AZ
University of California: Berkeley CA
University of Colorado at Boulder CO
University of Connecticut CT
University of Delaware DE
University of Florida FL
University of Georgia GA
University of Hawaii at Manoa HI
University of Iowa IA
Boise State University ID
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign IL
Indiana University Bloomington IN
Kansas State University Manhattan KS
University of Kentucky KY
Louisiana State University and Agricultural and Mechanical College LA
University of Massachusetts Amherst MA
University of Maryland: College Park MD
University of Maine ME
University of Michigan MI
University of Minnesota: Twin Cities MN
University of Missouri: Columbia MO
University of Mississippi MS
University of Montana MT
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill NC
University of North Dakota ND
University of Nebraska - Lincoln NE
University of New Hampshire NH
Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey: New Brunswick/Piscataway Campus NJ
University of New Mexico NM
University of Nevada: Reno NV
State University of New York at Buffalo NY
Ohio State University: Columbus Campus OH
University of Oklahoma OK
University of Oregon OR
Penn State University Park PA
University of Rhode Island RI
University of South Carolina SC
University of South Dakota SD
University of Tennessee: Knoxville TN
University of Texas at Austin TX
Texas A&M University TX
University of Utah UT
University of Virginia VA
University of Vermont VT
University of Washington WA
University of Wisconsin-Madison WI
West Virginia University WV
University of Wyoming WY
AlaskanNativeRU (talk) 23:59, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Flagship in Idaho

Currently this Wikipedia article links to the University of Idaho as the "flagship" university in Idaho. However, the source cited is from 2007 and, at least in Idaho, things have changed. In 2012, the State Board of Education removed the "flagship" designation from the University of Idaho's mission statement, and recently an independent media source has referred to Boise State University as "Idaho's flagship university".

On Wednesday, January 21, 2015, President Obama visited and spoke at Boise State University. After the fact the Magic Valley Times Editorial Board published an editorial saying "The U.S. president’s visit to Idaho’s flagship university Wednesday was a big deal." (link: http://magicvalley.com/news/opinion/editorial/article_76308811-3800-550c-8a7c-5ff9d6291def.html)

The paper appears to be the epitome of unbiased expert on this issue. The paper is from the Magic Valley in Idaho, so while they are familiar with the education system in Idaho neither Boise State nor the University of Idaho are in the Magic Valley. The editorial was written by the editorial board, reflecting the opinion of several people. Further, the opinion editor of the paper (Jon Alexander) was born and raised in New York (although I haven't been able to find his college information) (source: http://magicvalley.com/blogs/above-the-fold/ the bio on the right side of the page). The Editor (Jon Christensen) went to Iowa State University (http://magicvalley.com/news/local/christensen-named-times-news-editor/article_0eb61870-ae0b-5096-b775-1a559036367c.html). So no one involved with the paper or the editorial board appears to be biased on this issue.

This is precicely what Wikipedia asks for when making a change to an article, an independent media source reporting something that can be linked and verified.

Further, a google news search for "university of idaho" and "flagship" produces no recent hits. The most recent is a series of 2012 articles reporting that "flagship" had been removed from UI's mission statement.

Given the removal of "flagship" from the mission statement in 2012 and independent media sources refering to Boise State as the state's "flagship university" it is no longer appropriate for the University of Idaho to be listed under "Flagship universities in the United States". I propose removing the University of Idaho and adding Boise State University to the list.

I realize this may be upsetting to UI advocates, so if anyone has any links to the contrary please post them to further the discussion. Otherwise, I'll make the changes after a couple days. 24.119.23.240 (talk) 03:52, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

The user24.119.23.240 has only offered a single new paper to support the idea that Boise State fits either the definition or official recognition of flagship university. Given the fact that the University of Idaho continues to claim flagship status (both directly and indirectly) and given the features of the University of Idaho versus Boise State University I am removing Boise State. It frankly makes no sense what so over to have selectively applied the logic that the Idaho Board of Education does not believe anyone institution is a 'flagship' then turn around and appoint Boise State University as the flagship. The logic that precipitates the removal of the University of Idaho also requires equal weight to remove Boise State University.

I have updated the category by removing Boise State University and updated the Talk:University of Idaho page to further the discussion. I believe given the existing data and references available that the University of Idaho should be re-referenced as the entity for this page.Randomeditor1000 (talk) 05:44, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Along with the substantial evidence provided by the user above, as of 2023, Boise State University is actively fulfilling the role of a flagship university in Idaho. Considering its active participation in various semiconductor and research university networks and being the largest public educational institution in the state, discussions persist regarding updating the document to designate Boise State University as the flagship university, replacing the current reference to the University of Idaho. While discussions on this matter continue, the document will be revised to designate Boise State University as the flagship institution, given its substantial contributions in representing the state, joining many semiconductor university networks, and being the largest public educational institution. Other perspectives are welcomed. The document will be revised soon. Additionally, I would like to preface that I have no affiliation with the University of Idaho or Boise State University. I am a professional working in the field of university assessments in Columbus, GA. Granfront1815 (talk) 11:26, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

North Carolina Flagship Universities

In North Carolina, North Carolina State University, and UNC, are designated Co-Flagships by law. N.C. State is the largest University in the State, and is located in Raleigh, the state's capitol. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.28.195.227 (talk) 18:33, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Possible additions of flagship institutions

First and foremost, I'd like to suggest the addition of the University of Arizona, as while it should be on this page, it is not, for one reason or another.

Second, I'd like to suggest that the University of California, Los Angeles be added to the list. While Berkeley is the "flagship institution" and has been since the beginning of the University of California's inception, UCLA is now more selective in nearly all departments, and is ranked equal or higher in the majority of departments as well. In addition to being athletically superior, at first glance anyone would think that UCLA is a flagship institution. For all intents and purposes, it is, just not in name.

In the same vein, I'd like to suggest Clemson for consideration as a "flagship institution." While it lacks the name of the state, this is not a requirement (see Rutgers), and the school is considered superior in many to the University of South Carolina. If Purdue can be on this list alongside IU, then I see no reason why Clemson cannot.

Lastly, I believe Georgia Tech should be considered a "flagship institution." While the University of Georgia is the official flagship, Georgia Tech is leagues beyond UGeorgia, closing in on UMich and UNC in rankings. My justification for this is similar to Clemson: if Texas Tech can be considered a flagship alongside UT Austin, then I see no reason why Georgia Tech cannot be considered a flagship alongside UGeorgia. Eddierando (talk) 13:20, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Remember, flagship status is only a veneer in the wider scope of universities. A flagship university in one state may be more similar to a major but non-flagship university in another state, and so "flagship" is not a static or monolithic category. That is why, as I have argued in the section on Ohio below, only de jure (by law) flagship universities should be included on this Wikipedia flagship list, regardless of rankings. If a university is added that is not a de jure flagship, then it is being added due to completely subjective reasons similar to the moniker "Public Ivy," a superfluous term - as many schools are purposely left out. "Public Ivy" is comparing state universities (apples) to private establishments (oranges) and the two are not the same. Through this comparison, we also see that private establishments cannot be state flagships, which further renders the purpose of denoting academic flagships to be meretricious when arguing about a university's regard. To answer your question, we need to stick with only legally-designated flagships for these reasons to keep Wikipedia from falling into complete subjectivity on the topic. If Clemson wants to argue its flagship status, then it needs to make its case to the South Carolina legislature rather than to Wikipedia. Sapienna (talk) 04:27, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Ohio

The above list of so-called flagships is imprecise, as in the state of Ohio, there is no de jure flagship institution. Rather, the University System of Ohio has main campuses that market themselves along their own perceived excellences. To designate a flagship would be state favoritism. Ohio is unique as its two oldest universities, Ohio University (which was created as the state's original university) and Miami University, both public, were not gifted by the Morrill Act. Instead, the Stalwart Republicans used the Act's provisions toward an agricultural institution which became Ohio State University. Though it may be argued that Ohio University, being oldest, is the true flagship, there has never existed a designated flagship university in Ohio, not even during the polarity of its two oldest universities. State funding wasn't even awarded until the early 1900s. While OSU was formed for agriculture, Ohio universities truly compete on all academics, including liberal arts. The only reason OSU has been added to this imprecise list is out of comparison to other states' favorite universities - its size and bias in the legislature contribute to its misnomer as the flagship when history says otherwise. The University System of Ohio HAS NO FLAGSHIP. Please, remove OSU from the list. Sapienna (talk) 05:49, 25 June 2024 (UTC)