Category talk:Hebrew words and phrases

Hebrew naming conventions

Urgent: see Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Hebrew) to add your opinions about this important matter. Thank you. IZAK 18:05, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Definitions and the Wikipedia

The below is from WP:NOT which qualifies this page for deletion under the deletion policly. I am not putting it up as an AfD but you might wish to to re-read the WP:NOT. You may also wish to consider having this moved to the Wictionary. see the below tag

{{Move to Wiktionary}}

Just something to consider :) -- SusanLarson ^{(User Talk, New talk, Contribs)} 17:31, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a dictionary

Wikipedia is not a dictionary, or a usage or jargon guide. If you're interested in working on a wiki dictionary, check out our sister project Wiktionary. Wikipedia articles are not:

1. Dictionary definitions. Because Wikipedia is not a dictionary, please do not create an entry merely to define a term. An article should usually begin with a good definition; If you come across an article that is nothing more than a definition, see if there is information you can add that would be appropriate for an encyclopedia. An exception to this rule is for articles about the cultural meanings of individual numbers.
2. Lists of such definitions. There are, however, disambiguation pages consisting of pointers to other pages; these are used to clarify differing meanings of a word. Wikipedia also includes glossary pages for various specialized fields.
3. A usage guide, or slang and idiom guide. Wikipedia is not in the business of saying how words, idioms, etc., are used. We aren't teaching people how to talk like a l33t cracker or a Cockney chimney-sweep. However, it may be important in the context of an encyclopedia article to describe just how a word is used in order to distinguish among similar, easily confused ideas, as in nation or freedom. In some special cases an article about an essential piece of slang may be appropriate.

Reply: Category:Hebrew words is NOT meant to be a dictionary

• Hello SusanLarson: I think you misunderstand the nature of this category. It is not, and does not, serve as a "dictionary" of any sort. The purpose of this category is to indicate to any reader that they are reading a word or phrases derived from the Hebrew language. This is done with many other words derived from other languages that are not assumed to be "English" on Wikipedia! The words used in these articles or collected in categories are NOT the dictionary definitions of these words because they are only a simple "category" or listing of Hebrew words that denote SUBJECTS or ARTICLES (such as names of people or political parties or religious notions) to aid the reader gain some contextual understanding about the derivation of words --without getting into any detail. Similarly, I cannot imagine that you would want to nominate all these below for "deletion" according to your poor reasoning, because there is this comprehensive collection of foreign word categories and articles:
• Category:Arabic words
• Category:French words (which explains itself: "This category consists of French words on the English Wikipedia. Therefore, the pages are written in English."
• Category:French phrases
• List of English words of Italian origin
• Category:Spanish loanwords (which explains itself: "This category contains words borrowed from Spanish, and other Spanish words that may be seen in English texts.")
• Category:German loanwords (that explains itself: "This category contains words borrowed from German, and other German words that may be seen in English texts."
• Category:German phrases
• List of German expressions in English
• List of English words of Portuguese origin
• Category:Russian terminology (explains itself: "This category lists words of Russian origin that refer to notions specific to Russia and Soviet Union.")
• Category:Soviet phraseology
• Category:Chinese terms (explains: "This category lists terms of Chinese origin, which are related to general Chinese items or concepts.")
• Category:Japanese vocabulary
• Category:Korean terms
• List of English words of Korean origin

So I think I have made my point very clear, that Category:Hebrew words is perfectly in line with all the categories I have cited above and there are probably many more examples to support my position. Kindly withdraw your threat. Thank you. IZAK 09:58, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

I am just saying for all of these it would be better to link to wictionary than to host the material on the wikipedia. I am not saying it's not a valid resource. Just saying it's could possibly be done better in a different location more suited to the purpose you are using it for. It's something to consider. Same for the other pages you quoted above. If you provide too much detail then the Wikipedia gets buried in minutia though I am sure that some would disagree :) -- SusanLarson ^{(User Talk, New talk, Contribs)} 11:55, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi Susan: I think that you are being far too vague and what you say here is simply not correct. What we are dealing with here is not mere "words fit for a dictionary", we are talking of a CATEGORY that identifies the ORIGIN of the names of articles! Thus, for example, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are all articles and not just Hebrew words meant for a dictionary, similarly Tanakh, Halakha, and Parsha are Hebrew words that are widely used by most Jews who know a lot about Judaism, so these are not collections of odd "words" for a dictionary. And articles about Knesset, Kibbutz and Shalom are articles that relate to the modern state of Israel. So please do not misunderstand Category:Hebrew words which is not a dictionary, but rather only a broad "collection" of articles that are based and derived from words that come from the Hebrew language. IZAK 06:36, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Hebrewterm

Please use/improve new template:hebrewterm. See Aliyah, Kibbutz, Haganah as examples. ←Humus sapiens←ну? 09:09, 21 December 2005 (UTC)