Category talk:Hungary under Habsburg rule

Latest comment: 9 years ago by Marcocapelle in topic Categorization

Categorization

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Ok, Marcocapelle, let disccus this problem here insted having pointless revert war. I noticed that you ingaged yourself in massive recategorizazion of history articles. problem is that you in some places change correct categorization into incorrect one. in this specific case you categorized category "Habsburg period in the history of Hungary" as a subcategory of "Kingdom of Hungary". Why this is incorrect? Term "Kingdom of Hungary" refer to several different political units in history: independent medieval kingdom, Habsburg crown land, self-governing part of Austria-Hungary, post WW1 independent Hungarian state, etc. All of these had different political status and different borders. So, name "Kingdom of Hungary" do not refrer to any specific time period, but to several different time periods. The best way of categorization would be to divide this category into several categories: "Kingdom of Hungary (medieval)", "Kingdom of Hungary (1526-1699)", "Kingdom of Hungary (1699-1867)", "Kingdom of Hungary (1867-1918)", etc, as all of these would refer to specific time periods. So called "continuation" of this kingdom through all these periods was rather nominal than factual. Otherwise, category named "Kindom of Hungary" should be rather subcategory of "History of Hungary by topic" instead "History of Hungary by period". Habsburg period in the history of Hungary includes some Habsburg provinces like Military Frontier, Banat of Temeswar, etc, which covered one part of territory of modern Hungary, but historically were separate Habsburg lands, not parts of Habsburg Kingdom of Hungary. So, if you make that category "Habsburg period in the history of Hungary" is a subcategory of "Kingdom of Hungary" you imply that these Habsburg provinces were parts of the Kingdom of Hungary, which is incorrect. "Habsburg period in the history of Hungary" is one of the periods in History of Hungary (by which term we define history of territory of modern Hungary) and it includes topics which are not covered by the term or category named "Kingdom of Hungary". Redbluelighting (talk) 07:56, 18 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

The discussion points here are part of a larger discussion here. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:11, 21 April 2015 (UTC)Reply