Category talk:Irish association footballers

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One Nite in Hackney,

No individual player should be included in this category. Players should be placed in one or more of the relevant categories listed below.

The above tag has been at the top of this category for a long time. Do you have difficulty understanding it. Every footballer in the 7 sub categories could in theory be placed in the main category which would then include nearly two thousand articles. That is why the subcategories were created. People have always being categorised throughout Wiki by the current nation their place of birth falls in. Djln--Djln (talk) 22:52, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

No they haven't. Their birthplace is the country they were born in, not where it is now. Create subcategories if needed, but "Northern Irish" for people born pre-partition is out. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 23:34, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

• To be absolutely accurate they born in the UK. So they don’t belong to Irish category anyway !Djln--Djln (talk) 23:51, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

• Better get rid of English, Scottish and Welsh then too! ;) One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 23:52, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Also, I suggest you check Category:English footballers, Category:Scottish footballers and Category:Welsh footballers. I'm removing the category guidance to match. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 01:05, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

• • Sorry but you are so wrong, will continue to revert changes until you see sense. Please leave articles to people who actually know something about football and stop trying to impose your politics here Djln--Djln (talk) 04:46, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

• Nope, I'm right as ever. People born pre-partition are descirbed as Irish, post-partition can be described as Northern Irish. It's the only sensible and factual way of doing it, and has consensus. I suggest you stop amending articles against consensus, and your little football articles aren't a walled garden so I'll edit with consensus as I see fit. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 16:54, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

• IMO "Irish" for pre-partition, but "Northern Irish" can be used post-partition.BigDunc (talk) 17:41, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

• Which has consensus per guideline, "Northern Irish" pre-partition doesn't. I strongly suggest Djln respects consensus. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 17:55, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

And as the guidelines sayPeople born before independence in 1922 have their birthplace referred to as just Ireland, not Northern Ireland or Ireland or Ireland. Neither are they described as Northern Irish.. BigDunc (talk) 18:59, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

• I will be making a request that this guideline is reviewed. I suspect that both ONIH Big Dunc are Irish Republicans and therefore their neutrality is in doubt. Djln--Djln (talk) 22:37, 14 April 2008 (UTC)