Draft talk:BADVOID

Reliable sources/references

My /sandbox can be used to prove that the references/sources seen below can be used as a reliable source. Basically proves that the websites are not just blogs and have some sort of editorial oversight or staff (which you can typically find on a "About Page" page/tab or something similar).

User:GenesisGSE/sandbox GenesisGSE (talk) 21:15, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Source Assessment Table

Context: the draft author @GenesisGSE came into the IRC Live Chat last night (24/11/2024), and we had a long productive discussion on this draft and if it meets the NMUSIC notability criteria.

On my advice GenesisGSE has significantly cut down the draft content and focused on the strongest sources.

I've therefore created a Source Assessment Table based off this diff.

Most of the sources are fairly brief promotional "Look at this new track, come listen" type. Therefore I have marked their Independence as Unknown and their Sigcov as Partial.

My opinion is that it might now survive an AfD discussion with the current sources but the mainspace name is salted after two prior AfDs. Pinging @DoubleGrazing as last rejecting reviewer.

Source assessment table:

Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
ChronicleLive	~ Mostly based on an interview.			~ Partial
Your EDM	?		~	? Unknown
RaverRafting				✔ Yes
Your EDM	?		~	? Unknown
CULTR	?		~	? Unknown
Billboard			Doesn't mention Chris.	✘ No
Variety			Doesn't mention Chris.	✘ No
EARMILK	?		~	? Unknown
Dancing Astronaut	~		~	~ Partial
EDM Identity	~		~	~ Partial
Speaksly			Just a listing.	✘ No
We Rave You	?		~	? Unknown
Your EDM	?		~	? Unknown
CULTR	?		~	? Unknown
We Rave You	?		~	? Unknown
djmag			Just a listing.	✘ No
CULTR	?		~	? Unknown
CULTR	?		~	? Unknown
Your EDM	?		~	? Unknown
EDM identity			Only a mention.	✘ No
Run the Trap	?		~	? Unknown
We Rave You	?		~	? Unknown
Mixmag Asia	?		~	? Unknown
Dubstep FBI	?			? Unknown
EDM.com			Doesn't mention.	✘ No
EDM.com			Only a mention.	✘ No
Run the Trap			Doesn't mention.	✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

qcne (talk) 10:48, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the ping, @Qcne, and for the excellent source assessment.

My rejection was almost a procedural one, just making the point that we shouldn't have to keep reviewing a draft that had been rejected twice already. That said, I'm happy to revert myself, if notability can now be established (although based on the source assessment, WP:GNG doesn't look likely; is there any prospect of WP:MUSICBIO here?). -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:04, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

I'm genuinely not sure. There are loads of short, vaguely promotional sources, which exist to briefly review Chris' music and tell readers to listen to the new track below. They are all from reliable places. I don't think they've been paid to promote him, but it isn't outside the realm of possibility.

I think, if I were reviewing without the context of the rejections and AfDs, I would accept on the chance there's a 51% it would pass an AfD. qcne (talk) 11:21, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

I've added a few extra sources to the draft that I believe meet WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. I've also explained how I believe the existing sources meet these criteria. Thank you, @DoubleGrazing, for reviewing the draft, and @Qcne for the source assessment.

(WP:GNG)

• Courier Mail - "Mackay DJ’s Hit Single Breaks into iTunes Charts" Demonstrates independent recognition of BADVOID’s music and early industry success. [1]
• Courier Mail - "Teen DJ Working Hard to Make His Music Heard" Highlights his dedication and progress in the industry as a teenager, supporting his early career narrative. [2]
• Premiere: BADVOID welcomes you into a new realm of bass madness Provides in-depth, independent coverage of his career and creative journey, meeting GNG criteria. [3]
• EDM.com - BADVOID and Zabo's New Single "Asylum" Is Mid Tempo Madness Offers detailed analysis of his collaboration with Zabo, reflecting his artistry and notability. [4]

(WP:MUSICBIO)

Key points relevant to BADVOID:

• Releases: Two or more EPs on significant labels (e.g., Enter the Void via Buygore, Mutiny via Sounds Of Mayhem, Open Your Eyes via Dim Mak Records, Need Somebody via Bassrush), plus releases on Welcome Records and others establish a notable history.
• Coverage: Articles from sources like Cultr and Dancing Astronaut provide substantive, independent commentary on his career.
• Performances: International shows, including Escape Halloween, are independently documented (e.g., [5].)

GenesisGSE (talk) 19:24, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

On the basis of @Qcne's "51%", I'll revert my rejection, so this can be resubmitted. I will also recuse myself from reviewing it. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 19:28, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you @DoubleGrazing. Appreciate it GenesisGSE (talk) 21:14, 25 November 2024 (UTC)