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Latest comment: 5 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion
@Sk8erPrince: The fact that the only part of the body prose, and one fourth of the entire article prose, is about the subject's brother makes it clear that it's way out of proportion, which is part of NPOV policy. Sure, the fact that her brother got arrested for kiddie porn made it on the news. Lots of things make it on the news, but Wikipedia is not news. You may think that being on the news (and maybe meeting WP:GNG) makes it notable, but that's irrelevant to whether including the birth date, criminal charges, and current sex offender status of a living sibling merits inclusion on an article that has two sentences on the actual subject. It would only be relevant to creating a separate article on the sibling. — MarkH21 (talk) 10:46, 28 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
Even if WP:PROPORTION concerns aren't enough (which they certainly are), it's overly detailed from the WP:BLPPRIVACY policy point of view. The inclusion of the DOB is also only sourced to the actual offender registry, and is not widely published by other reliable sources, contrary to: Wikipedia includes full names and dates of birth that have been widely published by reliable sources, or by sources linked to the subject such that it may reasonably be inferred that the subject does not object to the details being made public. If... the person is borderline notable, err on the side of caution and simply list the year. And that's a restriction that also holds for a person who is the actual subject of an article. Finally, the presumption in favor of privacy is strong in the case of family members of articles' subjects and other loosely involved, otherwise low-profile persons. — MarkH21 (talk) 11:11, 28 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
I would remove the birthday and full name for the brother per WP:BLPPRIVACY which usually extends to the subject's kids, but could include family members and significant others. When you have someone like Stephen Paddock (2017 Las Vegas shootings) and that article does not even mention his girlfriend's name despite that being on the news. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:52, 28 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
What about Cleao Everlasting from Orphen? she's her voice also at 2020 remake.
Latest comment: 3 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion
this, Sarah Wiedenheft's nationality is Dutch right, it turns out that someone added two nationalities to the infobox and the opening sentence saying that phrase: Sarah Wiedenheft is an American voice actress, but what happens that she's not American, she is Dutch by birth, at the time of intervening in the article by removing the nationality and placing the citizenship of the aforementioned infobox, a user reverted two editions of mine12, leaving at least two summaries indicating the WP:ETHNICITY which means that the initial paragraph to which everyone refers does not help much and the website that I visited before had more than three nationalities and that now there is a dispute to an incorporation when an IP has added said term to the initial paragraph knowing that there were no news references on Google, just her website where he has her personal data. 148.0.126.240 (talk) 05:30, 16 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
Actually, WP:ETHNICITY states that the place of birth, previous nationalities, and/or ethnicity should not be included in the lead unless directly relevant to the subject's notability. She achieved her notability as a voice actress in the U.S., where she immigrated years before she began her career and she lists her heritage as Dutch, Danish and American on her official website. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 07:20, 18 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
