MediaWiki talk:Upload

What should this link say?

(Note: I've just deleted the associated system message, as it was identical to the default. It was previously changed to say 'Upload file (without wizard)' by User:Uncle G (Changed label because of new upload wizard, modelled upon the Commons one. See discussion at MediaWiki talk:Uploadtext.) and reverted by User:Rdsmith4 (this makes no sense in the absence of an alternative reading "Upload file (with wizard)". I can't find the wizard; this label is confusing.)

Having two links saying 'Upload file', which is the status quo, is a confusing thing to do in this situation. However, I agree with User:Rdsmith4's concerns that the (with wizard) notation is also confusing. (For the benefit of people who don't already know: this is the link in the toolbox, which makes it possible to upload a file without using the wizard.) The options:

• Leave it with two links saying the same thing
• Change this system message (and/or MediaWiki:Sidebar) to something less confusing
• Remove the link created by this message entirely

I don't really like the first option; that's just confusing to new users. The third option runs the risk of annoying established uploaders who already know how to upload. So the second option would be best from my point of view. Does anyone have any ideas about how to rename the links so that new users will be attracted to the first one, but the link in the toolbox exists for established users? --ais523 11:15, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

• You're in the wrong place. See the already existing discussions at Wikipedia talk:Upload and at MediaWiki talk:Sidebar#Two upload links?. Having two links with two different names, much as I originally had them, seems to be what all of the editors who have expressed a preference so far want. Uncle G 20:08, 23 May 2007 (UTC)