Portal talk:Current events/2024 November 8
Amsterdam violence
editI feel like its worth mentioning the violence perpetrated by some Israeli fans that was a precursor to the attacks on Israelis
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/8/israeli-football-fans-clash-with-protesters-in-amsterdam Henryballs (talk) 15:28, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Amsterdam violence II
editI removed a claim from this that the football attacks were planned in advance, which was added by IP 142.189.54.128 and which I believed to be unsourced. After a thread at ANI it's been pointed out that a France24 video they added as a source ([1]) may support this. I'm using a device through a firewall right now and can't load the video itself, but the caption describes Benjamin Netanyahu claiming that the attacks were premeditated; I assume the video supports that. I don't think this supports describing the attacks as premeditated in Wikipedia's voice, and I think it would be awkward to shoehorn in something like "In events which Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu described as premeditated, pro-Palestinian locals attacked ..." It just doesn't seem that relevant to me to include an unsupported allegation that Netanyahu just flung out in an interview without any evidence, in what is supposed to be a brief summary of the events. But I'll leave it here in case anyone else wants to take a look. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:49, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- I did watch the video and it does not contain any information suggesting the violence was premeditated. It does say tensions were high before the game. A caption under the video says Netanyahu claimed the violence was premeditated. Neither of those is a statement of fact that should be recorded in wiki-voice. Simonm223 (talk) 19:01, 8 November 2024 (UTC)