Talk:¿Dónde está Elisa? (Chilean TV series)
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editIn the Telemundo version of this telenovela, when the audience sees Elisa's computer with a site like Facebook, the site is not called Facebook. The site is some kind of imaginary social network like Facebook, but not actually Facebook. Thus one wonders if the technical criticism of the telenovela's alleged technical errors is a actually a valid criticism. I don't know or recall if the Chile version actually used the name Facebook. As to the IP address, it seems possible that someone could change an IP address or use a proxy server to change the IP address, even in a proxy server in a number of countries.
It seems clear in the Telemundo version that Bruno did not merely take advantage of an inappropriate relationship; instead he was committing fornication and incest himself with Elisa, his niece (niece in the sense of daughter of his wife's sister -- which qualifies as incest in the Law of Moses.) In Spanish Elisa would be called Bruno's amante. In the Chile version she is 16 years old; in the USA version she is 17, and Bruno would probably be considered a statutory rapist, even if Elisa was the seducer and instigator.
Requested move 14 July 2018
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The result of the move request was: Moved both. I'll leave the base name as a redirect for now so that the redirects can be cleaned up. If someone wishes to turn it into a dab page, please keep that in mind. Anarchyte (work | talk) 11:37, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
- ¿Dónde está Elisa? → ¿Dónde está Elisa? (Chilean TV series)
- ¿Dónde está Elisa? (American TV series) → ¿Dónde está Elisa? (U.S. TV series)
– The American TV series is arguably the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC (though, barely...), but if we treat this as a WP:NOPRIMARY situation, then ¿Dónde está Elisa? needs to be moved to ¿Dónde está Elisa? (Chilean TV series) (pretty much no matter what). Meanwhile, ¿Dónde está Elisa? (American TV series) needs to be moved to ¿Dónde está Elisa? (U.S. TV series) as per WP:NCTVUS. (If considered to be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, then it should be moved to the base title.) --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:36, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
- STRONGLY support 2nd move per nom (it seems that should be uncontroversially speedy-moved), Weak support 1st move per nom (although not sure if it's the primary topic or not). But seriously, shouldn't the irregularly-named "American TV series" be uncontroversially speedy-moved? Paintspot Infez (talk) 20:21, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Paintspot: If you're interested, the page view stats for both can be seen here – based on that, there's most likely WP:NOPRIMARY. As for why I didn't just speedy move the second one, I felt it made more sense to do this "officially" as a "bundled" move. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 21:33, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
- Got it. Yeah, I support that first move. Paintspot Infez (talk) 22:08, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
- Support per WP:NCTV and IJBall. --Gonnym (talk) 22:33, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
- Support both moves. I think ¿Dónde está Elisa? should be a disambiguation page. --Ptko (talk) 11:01, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.