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Aedh & Caustantín & Eochaid IV

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It seems highly unlikely that A. (d.778) married a daughter of C. (d.820, and his brother Óengus died in 834). Indeed, going by Eochaid IV of Dalriada, it would mean that E. married his maternal grandfather's sister. The Bannerman argues in a piece in Spes Scotorum for C. & O. being the grandsons of A.'s brother Eochaid III of Dalriada. I don't credit this myself, but if true it would make the whole thing completely unlikely. But even throwing out Bannerman's idea, as I do, the dates alone make the idea that A. (or E.) married a daughter of C. all but impossible, although it's possible, just, that E. married a sister of C., but she would certainly not have been C.'s heir given that he had brother(s), son(s) and nephew(s). Angus McLellan 00:11, 26 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

The battle in 768

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While fiddling with Dál Riata, I was checking into Aed's battle with the Picts in 768. This appears to be accepted as certain by e.g. Bannerman, but looking at the Annals it does seem rather dubious:

AU 768.7 Bellum i Fortrinn iter Aedh & Cinaedh. (A battle in Foirtriu between Aed and Cinaed.)
AM 763.7 (for 768) Iomaireacc etir Laighnibh budhdhéisin .i. eitir Cionaedh, mac Flaind, & Aedh, i Foirtrinn, in ro marbhadh Aedh. (A battle was fought between the Leinstermen themselves, namely, between Cinaech, son of Flann, and Aedh, at Foirtrinn, where Aedh was slain.)

I have no idea about the Áed who is slain might be, Áed's and Leinster kings are both two a penny. IIRC, AClon mentions a "Hugh mac Flynn" at about this time. Cináed mac Flainn was indeed busy fighting in Leinster until his death in 770. He appears again in AM 765.12, where he's killed. He's mentioned on p. 157 of Byrne's Irish Kings and High-Kings. Any thoughts ? Angus McLellan 12:32, 5 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Would Cinaedh be Ciniod son of Uuredech who reigned for 12 years from the Pictish Chronicle? And maybe a brother to St Berchan mac Muireadhach c.770? Or as suggest the son of Feradach son of Selbach mac Ferchair 69.112.37.122 (talk) 20:38, 28 March 2017 (UTC)Reply

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Aed Finn mac Echdach the saga?

The 8th century Immram curaig Maíle Duin says:

"Now Aed the Fair, chief sage of Ireland, arranged this story as it standeth here; and he did (so), for delighting the mind and for the folks of Ireland after him."

Might be a different 8th century Aedh Finn. However, the Chronicle of the Kings of Alba does imbue him with sageness for

"In his time the Gaels with their king at Forteviot made the laws of the kingdom [those of] Edi [Aed] son of Ecdach."

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