Talk:Šêdu

New Section

This article clearly deals with the same subject as Bull man. Bull man is more informative, so should take the lead in a merge effort, IMHO. Mhaesen 17:45, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Hmm... what about the lion form or griffin?  - C. dentata 22:22, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I wonder if perhaps you would be better off either:

1. Create a 'Mesopotamian Creatures' page or something similar which contained lammasu, shedu and bull man creatures with redirects from the original page names. The three pages I've looked at are very small so this might be the way to go? Leave griffin where it is its large enough to need its own page. 2. Put them all on the 'Mesopotamian Mythology' page under their own headings? 3. If none of those get your goat I would definetly go for mergeing lammasu and Bull man with this page rather than shedu into bull man. Mainly because this article already has the myth template, contains more categorys of relevance than bull man, is slightly larger, and has a disambig page. Thats my two cents for what its worth :) -- Shimirel ^(Talk) 04:13, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

CLEANUP

Hi,

This article is so full of conjecture, if anyone knows anything about the difference between Sumerian and Akkadian, they will note the clear misrepresentation of the Sumerian term lama.

I will explain in the article, also there are many more examples of Winged human-headed Lions than Bulls! Sargon II, at Khorsabad, took preference to bull deities than lions, however Ashurnasirpal and Ashurbanipal at Nimrud and Nineveh respectively were more inclined to lions. Having said that examples contained with the British Museum, Metropolitan Museum of Art, Baghdad Museum and 'in situ' at sites around the citadels show bull sculptures as well.

Henry Layard gave a set of Assyrian sculpture to his cousin at Canford Manor, which found their way to the Met, which forms the bulk of its collection. The British Musem auctioned of several dozen repeated scene relief panels, in the 19th century, due to the volume of sculptures, some of which now form the bulk of the Brooklyn Museum of Art collection. There are only four museums outside Iraq that are in possession of Lamassu's, the British Museum (7 full scale, 1 rare head piece, 1 rare bas-relief), Louvre (5 full scale - all Khorsabad), Met Museum (2 full scale) and the Oriental Institute of Art (1 full scale).

ImperialCollegeGrad 21:41, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Most Common Name

Most Common Name for this article. I did some research on this and I came across to these findings. Feel free to view an critique them.

Using Google Scholar:

• Assyrian winged bull: http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&lr=&q=assyrian+winged+bull&btnG=Search

3680 hits

• Shedu ‘Assyrian’- Note: added second word under advanced scholar ‘also category.’

http://scholar.google.com/scholar?as_q=shedu&num=10&btnG=Search+Scholar&as_epq=&as_oq=assyrian&as_eq=&as_occt=any&as_sauthors=&as_publication=&as_ylo=&as_yhi=&as_allsubj=all&hl=en&lr= 22 hits

• lamassu: http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&lr=&q=lamassu

221 hits

Using Google Books

• Lamassu: http://books.google.com/books?lr=&q=lamassu

709 hits

• Assyrian winged bull: http://books.google.com/books?lr=&q=assyrian+winged+bull

1136 hits

• shedu Assyrian: Note: added second word under advanced books ‘also category’ to omit hundreds of thousands of off topic findings

http://books.google.com/books?as_q=shedu&num=10&lr=&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=&as_oq=assyrian&as_eq=&as_brr=0&as_pt=ALLTYPES&lr=&as_vt=&as_auth=&as_pub=&as_sub=&as_drrb=c&as_miny=&as_maxy=&as_isbn=&as_issn= 184 hits

• This is what I found from my searches; perhaps someone else could do a similar search to see what the most common name for this historical monument is. I must admit I have come across to lamassu and Assyrian winged bull far more than shedu; perhaps someone could explain this. Ninevite (talk) 20:45, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Star Wars

Is the Kaminoan prime minister in Star Wars named after Lammasu? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.105.128.56 (talk) 13:41, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

GckaaAA!

If the Shedu/Lamassu was female, how come the critter in the image has a beard? Did the Sumerians or Akkadians have weird preferences? Rursus dixit. (^mbork³!) 20:17, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Fixed. Forget it. Rursus dixit. (^mbork³!) 20:20, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

where to begin?

• first of all Šêdu is not even the correct Akkadian.
• second that a lamassu is ALWAYS female is incorrect
• third "alad" has only 4 attestations in literature as opposed to the 300+ attestations of lamma (source: ePSD) thus indicating the most correct name for a assyrian winged bull in ENGLISH wikipedia is the english version of the Akkdian version of the Sumerian original "lamma"

• I am moving this article and fixing all the mistakes with citations

--Gurdjieff (talk) 09:33, 17 July 2010 (UTC)