Talk:Šajkača/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Dr. Blofeld (talk · contribs) 12:51, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

It's essential for an item of clothing that you give a description of the item, what materials are used, size, colour, how is it made, who makes it etc.

• "Sometimes seen as a nationalist symbol," why sometimes and who considers it a national symbol?

Fixed.

• "The cap gained prominence " strange expression, the cap became widely worn would be better.

Done.

• "The Šajkača was seen as the typical cap of peasants" -either is was a typical cap of the peasants or it wasn't, otherwise it affects the neutrality and infers that it might not have been.

I've ammended this to the cap was "the typical cap of peasants."

• "Croatian Serb authorities erected gravestones to the Serb soldiers who were killed fighting for the city. These were originally topped with a sculptural evocation of the Šajkača." I don't follow, every grave had a sculptural depiction of the hat??

Yes, all the gravestones had sculptural depictions of the hat. This instance is notable because it shows to what extent the cap was considered a nationalist symbol. If the wording is unclear, can you please suggest how it should be reworded for clarity?

• Can you add some of the images used in the Serbian wikipedia article, some good ones of soldiers wearing the hat like File:Српски Регрути 1901.JPG which is clearer than the other old pic you currently have.

I'm currently working on finding some better pics. Regards, 23 editor (talk) 17:45, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
I've added two new photos, both of which are clearer than the old ones. 23 editor (talk) 21:35, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

That's better. Can you find some information about the hat itself?♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:00, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

• I'm currently researching that bit. This might take a couple days. 23 editor (talk) 13:20, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

I've come up with a "Design" section and sourced it. What do you think? 23 editor (talk) 14:22, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Better, thanks, although the ones in most of the pictures look olive green/ khaki, typical military uniform in colour to me rather than grey. Could you find out what material they're made from and who makes them?♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:09, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I'm afraid the source mentions it being black or grey (but it doesn't mean all Šajkača caps have to be, of course.) I've added what the caps are made from. As for who makes them, I couldn't find (nor do I know of) any company that specifically makes the caps. They are traditionally homemade. I hope I've addressed all of your concerns. Regards, 23 editor (talk) 17:18, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

The lead also needs a summary of it.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:54, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

How's this? 23 editor (talk) 19:03, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Looks fine.

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

1. Is it reasonably well written?

   A. Prose quality:

   B. MoS compliance:

2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?

   A. References to sources:

   B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:

   C. No original research:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. Major aspects:

   B. Focused:

4. Is it neutral?

   Fair representation without bias:

5. Is it stable?

   No edit wars, etc:

6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?

   A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

   B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

Looking in google books and finding very little of substance, I think you've done a very good job in writing a credible article on this and demonstrates the strength of wikipedia on notable but unconventional encyclopedia topics.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:01, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much for reviewing the article. Cheers, 23 editor (talk) 20:25, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

I listed it under warfare in a new section for military uniforms and clothing OK?♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:04, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Sure. 23 editor (talk) 22:24, 21 August 2013 (UTC)