Talk:.ie

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You say that The University of Limerick has the only two-letter .ie domain. Actually

• ul.ie is not a working address. www.ul.ie is, though.
• o2.ie and www.o2.ie both redirect to www.o2online.ie. So they are sort of working domains; certainly they must be registered.

TRiG 09:48, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Two letter domains are forbidden. The o2.ie domain is a letter/number domain. Two character domains (either two numbers or one number and one letter) are allowed but two letter domains are not. --Jmccormac 10:53, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Dead link

During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!

• http://iedr.ie/RegistrationPolicy.php
  • In .ie on 2011-05-20 21:43:10, 404 Not Found
  • In .ie on 2011-05-31 14:57:39, 404 Not Found

--JeffGBot (talk) 14:57, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

9 years later link is still dead. 89.66.120.169 (talk) 17:03, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Dead link 2

During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!

• http://www.domainregistry.ie/DisputeRes.php
  • In .ie on 2011-05-20 21:43:10, 404 Not Found
  • In .ie on 2011-05-31 14:57:47, 404 Not Found

--JeffGBot (talk) 14:58, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Domain hacks - Yura87 (talk) 08:21, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Domain hacking example is Cut the Rope - where .IE means "Internet Explorer" rather than "IrEland".

Not really. There are better ones that than but domain hacks aren't a major thing with .ie ccTLD. Jmccormac (talk) 20:32, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Why .ie instead of .ei ...

... as one would expect? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.139.81.0 (talk) 14:51, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

There was some discussion about using EI when the ccTLD was being established. This was also a code used for Irish aircraft but for some reason, the IE choice was used. Jmccormac (talk) 18:03, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Jmccormac - You say there was "some discussion" of using ".ei". How can you reconcile this with the fact that ".ie" has been Ireland's ISO 3166 code since 1974 (years before ".ie" was assigned as a domain name). Was the "discussion" serious or more in the line of pub talk. It would be interesting to know about this. Frenchmalawi (talk) 03:11, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

.ie is assigned to the State named Ireland

I would like to try to put what appears to be a bit of a myth to bed. Some places in Wikipedia suggest that the “.ie” domain name is somehow assigned to the island of Ireland. Unsurprisingly, that is not in fact the position. It is assigned to the State named Ireland:

(1) “.ie” is a country-code top-level domain (ccTLD) – so it is a 2 letter domain established for a country (the Irish State) based on ISO 3166, the standard published by the International Organization for Standardization (ISO); and

(2) registration of a “.ie” is governed by the laws of the Irish State (and no other State) – primarily the Electronic Commerce Act 2000 of Ireland (as amended, notably by the Communications Regulation (Amendment) Act 2007 of Ireland (as amended in 2007)). Section 31 of the Electronic Commerce Act 2000 provides:

““.ie” domain name’ means the top level of the global domain name system assigned to Ireland according to the two-letter code in the International Standard ISO 3166-1 (Codes for Representation of Names of Countries and their Subdivision) of the International Organisation for Standardisation.”

Section 32 continues:

“A person shall not use an ‘.ie’ domain name unless the name is registered in accordance with regulations made under this section.”

It is therefore pretty plain that “.ie” is assigned to the State named Ireland (and not the island!). The fact that it is Ireland’s policy to permit registration of “.ie” by persons with a connection to Ireland and/or Northern Ireland does not change the fact that the “.ie” is the domain name of the Irish State. It is not somehow assigned to “the island of Ireland”.

I will make a few amends accordingly. Frenchmalawi (talk) 03:11, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

This conveniently ignores the fact that IANA assign top-level domains and they still list UCD as the assigned registry, not the Irish government or ComReg. Top-level domains are not assigned to countries, territories or states. They are assigned to organisations. — Blue-Haired Lawyer ^t 23:18, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Btw, the part of section 32 that you quote from – subsection (2) – has never been brought into force.^[1] — Blue-Haired Lawyer ^t 13:18, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Firstly, (in terms of consistency) here are a few quotes from Wikipedia (genuinely random choice):

(1) ".ir is the Internet country code top-level domain (ccTLD) for Iran."

(2)".za is the Internet country code top-level domain (ccTLD) for South Africa."

(3)".fr is the Internet country code top-level domain (ccTLD) in the Domain Name System of the Internet for France."

[Are they wrong too ? After all, as you point out, an agency is assigned for IANA purposes, not a Government as such. Similarly, are you going to make an equivalent edit on those pages]

Secondly, (in terms of what you have said about who the domain name is assigned to), little doubt it is correct that there is a specified agency (UCD) for ".ie" but this is how tha Act describes the .ie domain: the "global domain name system assigned to Ireland (Do you object to what the law passed by the Oirechtas says or to my eidt?)

In any event, I think our first sentence should be consistent with all the other articles.

I've amended accordingly.

I don't agree on "Ireland and/or Northern Ireland" - it's super clear terminology....Can people in Achill or Aran Mór apply for a .ie domain name then? They are not on the island of Ireland. But this is one of those chestnuts for Wikipedia and indeed others, I'll have to live with your logic.

On section 32, are you sure no Commencement Order has been made bringing Part 4 into force? I haven't checked. Thanks in advance on that one. Frenchmalawi (talk) 18:28, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

• The word "Ireland" can be controversial but I think the current lead reflects the WP:IRE-IRL manual of style while "Ireland and/or Northern Ireland" wouldn't.
• I've no problem with your edit.
• The legislative directory only lists one commencement order: Communications Regulation (Amendment) Act 2007 (Commencement) Order 2007 and this excludes subsection (2) and (6) of section 32. Reading between the lines of the text quoted on the article it appears ComReg think the Act is badly drafted and can't come into force without further amendments. — Blue-Haired Lawyer ^t 20:20, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

I don't agree with all the "controversy" (politics) on Wikipedia around the Irish state name...Wikipedia has left itself in a sorry state around all of this. Certainly, it puts me off. Frenchmalawi (talk) 02:48, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Discussion re domain names at Talk:Northern Ireland

A discussion is taking place at the above page relating to what domain name or domain names whould be listed for Northern Ireland (if any). I am a participant in the discussion so do not wish to be seen to be canvassing here so I simply encourage more Editors to get involved at Talk: Northern Ireland. For balance I am also making this post on the .uk page. Frenchmalawi (talk) 17:25, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

.ie lede - why the inconsistency?

The .ie article has now been changed so that its lede reads as follows “.ie is the country code top-level domain (ccTLD) which corresponds with the ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 code for [the Republic of] Ireland.” This lede is out of line with all the other ledes. I took a sample. Those countries whose names begin with "I". Here it is:

• .is the Internet country code top-level domain (ccTLD) of Israel.

• .itis the Internet country code top-level domain (ccTLD) for Italy.

• .ir is the Internet country code top-level domain (ccTLD) for Iran.

• [.iq]]is the Internet country code top-level domain (ccTLD) for Iraq.

• .inis the Internet country code top-level domain (ccTLD) for India.

• .id is the Internet country code top-level domain (ccTLD) for Indonesia.

• .is(dot is) is the top-level domain for Iceland.

The Republic of Ireland ".ie" domain reigistry permits persons in Northern Ireland to register ".ie" domain names. So what? If the .it domain registry announced tomorrow that persons in Corsica could register ".it" domain names, would that it make it any less the domain name of Italy? Of course not. Why this "Irish exceptionalism"? Thanks. Frenchmalawi (talk) 02:37, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

I guess because of the ambiguity both in terminology and in application and because of how the IEDR has chosen to administer the ccTLD. What is certain, and uncontentious, is that .ie is the ccTLD that corresponds to the ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 code for Ireland. That arrangements of words is also more accurate.

It's clear from your interaction on a number of pages that how the IEDR have chosen to administer .ie registry irks you. I sugest you write them a letter expressing your ire. --RA (talk) 08:06, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

@RA"What is certain, and uncontentious, is that .ie is the ccTLD that corresponds to the ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 code for Ireland. That arrangements of words is also more accurate." Agreed that much is certain. "What [also] is certain, and uncontentious, is that .it is the ccTLD that corresponds to the ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 code for Italy. That arrangements of words is also more accurate." So why aren't we doing that on Italy and all the others? WikiPrinciple: Consistency? These double standards smell of politics to me. Frenchmalawi (talk) 00:00, 7 August 2013 (UTC)