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- This review is transcluded from Talk:1:54/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: Swpb (talk · contribs) 18:00, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
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1. Well-written: | ||
1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct. | ||
1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation. | Layout needs some improvement – the "History" section should be broken into subsections. | |
2. Verifiable with no original research: | ||
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline. | ||
2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose). |
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2c. it contains no original research. | ||
2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism. | ||
3. Broad in its coverage: | ||
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic. | ||
3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style). | ||
4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each. | The sources are largely favorable to the topic – that may be unavoidable, but care must be taken not to let that bias show through. In a few places, statements from sources are being taken at face value:
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5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute. | ||
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio: | ||
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content. | ||
6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions. | ||
7. Overall assessment. | Nominator refuses to fix issues which reviewer considers unresolved. Nominator is free to try again with someone else. |
—swpbT 18:53, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
- Hi @Swpb, thanks for the review! I don't think it would serve the (relatively short) article by subsectioning the History. I considered splitting out a section on 1:54 NY but it didn't make sense in the overall history, so best to cover it in a single paragraph and continue along the general historical trajectory of the fair. I think the article is balanced for neutrality, especially given the sources. The fair's founder is a fine source for their curatorial practices and organizational history, especially when there is no source that suggest anything to the contrary. Appreciate the other comments and believe I have addressed them, if you'll have a look. Thanks again for your time! czar 19:19, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
- I don't see that my comments have been addressed, in terms of the necessary changes being made to the article. I won't make a stand on the formatting, but I do believe the remaining 2b and 4 issues require changes. If you don't agree, I can close the review so you can renominate the article and wait for another reviewer. —swpbT 19:27, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Swpb, I changed the ones that I agree warranted changing (which were most of your suggestions), and I explained why I didn't change the two statements (in #4) where I disagree. I think it makes for sloppy prose to provide attribution of statements when the attribution isn't necessary, and even if you think the clarifications make for better prose, I don't see how the neutrality is compromised with those two sentences remaining the way they are, especially for the purposes of the GA criteria. czar 19:47, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
- I don't see that my comments have been addressed, in terms of the necessary changes being made to the article. I won't make a stand on the formatting, but I do believe the remaining 2b and 4 issues require changes. If you don't agree, I can close the review so you can renominate the article and wait for another reviewer. —swpbT 19:27, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
- ... you failed the article over two sentences? Please restore the review and request a "2ndopinion" instead. If another editor agrees, I'll make the change. czar 13:03, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
Second opinion
edit- I agree with the point
"African politics did not impede the selection process". That may be true, but it's coming from a biased source
. I suggest you find some way of acknowledging that the opinion may be biased that makes it clear to the reader, or find an alternative neutral source providing the same opinion. • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 17:48, 2 April 2017 (UTC) "organizers ask themselves 'what is necessary, what can be achieved, how [to] do something different'". This is a statement from the fair's founder.
, and as such can be taken as a fair comment on the organizers' motivation. I do not consider it necessary to change this providing the fair's founder is one of the organizers. • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 17:52, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks, @Pbsouthwood. The first quote wasn't meant to be so declarative, as it is when separated from the second clause about visas. Rephrased to be truer to the source czar 00:16, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
- Rather different in scope, and now a neutral statement.
- There is an ambiguous link to art fair in the lead.
- Is there anything else you need an opinion on? Cheers, • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 06:11, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
- Swpb. I believe the outstanding items have been satisfactorily modified. As you basically did all the work of the review, I invite you to comment and choose whether to pass or fail the article. I have no reason to dispute the quality of your review besides the items for which a second opinion was requested, as the nominator seems satisfied. If you fail it I will feel obliged to take up the review, and unless I find something unexpected, it will pass. Cheers, • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 16:42, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
- Pbsouthwood. Seeing the changes, I will not stop you from passing the article. The horrible taste in my mouth disinclines me to do it myself. —swpbT 16:55, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
- I sympathise, and will deal with the formalities. Cheers, • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 17:19, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
- Pbsouthwood. Seeing the changes, I will not stop you from passing the article. The horrible taste in my mouth disinclines me to do it myself. —swpbT 16:55, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
- Swpb. I believe the outstanding items have been satisfactorily modified. As you basically did all the work of the review, I invite you to comment and choose whether to pass or fail the article. I have no reason to dispute the quality of your review besides the items for which a second opinion was requested, as the nominator seems satisfied. If you fail it I will feel obliged to take up the review, and unless I find something unexpected, it will pass. Cheers, • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 16:42, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks, @Pbsouthwood. The first quote wasn't meant to be so declarative, as it is when separated from the second clause about visas. Rephrased to be truer to the source czar 00:16, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
American English?
editThis is an event in Britain. Why is the standard here American English? Please use {{ping}} if you respond. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:49, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Koavf, hiya—it's an international event held in London and New York. It has no inherent strong national tie to a region such that it would be called a "British" or "American" event. czar 00:25, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
- Czar, Ah, just saw London. Thanks. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:28, 20 August 2019 (UTC)