Talk:1910 Ice Hockey European Championship

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Joel225sp in topic Use England or Great Britain in this article?

Use England or Great Britain in this article?

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Arguments for England:

Contemporary accounts identify the champions of this tournament as “England,” and this continues until 1924, when "Great Britain" wins bronze at the Olympics. The only source document for the first 11 years of this Wikipedia article clearly lists “Angleterre,” and makes no mention of “Grande-Bretagne.” The founding document of the LIHG (May 1908) records the attendance and signature of delegate Eustratius Mavrogordato representing “Angleterre.” https://www.iihf.com/en/statichub/4808/history-of-ice-hockey https://books.google.com/books?id=EU-9DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA13&lpg=PA13&dq=Eustratius+Mavrogodato&source=bl&ots=PvFe6op-4b&sig=ACfU3U1rWUefcckKEHIcu0Hg5Y41tYYIiA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjS6euPm4LpAhXTvp4KHcwlA6gQ6AEwAHoECAYQAQ#v=onepage&q=Eustratius%20Mavrogodato&f=false Further, at the time, it was acceptable practice that a country could be represented by more than one team. We see this with Bohemia and Austria having simultaneous LIHG membership. (Germany even protested this at the 1913 European Championship, but the protest was denied.) We also see this with the four “Home Nations” each having separate teams in Field Hockey at the 1908 Olympic Games.


Arguments for Great Britain:

Previous listings of “England” in reference to this 1910 team were all simply mistakes.Joel225sp (talk) 23:41, 24 April 2020 (UTC)Reply


Conclusion:

I chose to mention the contemporary usage of England in the article, but maintained Great Britain's place as the champions, respecting the position of the IIHF.Joel225sp (talk) 02:14, 20 May 2020 (UTC)Reply