Talk:1929 Bahamas hurricane
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Point of the article/Todo
editWhile the quality of this is pretty good, is there a reason this has an article? It killed 11 and caused $1.5 million in damage. Today that would hardly justify an article's existence, let alone back in 1929. Hurricanehink 16:19, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
- The $1.5 million was in Florida since the damage figures in the Bahamas (which took the worst of the hurricane) is unknown possibly in the $40-80 million (2005 USD) range. Storm05 16:22, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
- Be sure to find the Bahamas figure, if that is the reason for the article. Hurricanehink 16:30, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
- The Bahamas figure is out there somewhere if I only knew what site its on then I could easly figure out the damage this hurricane did in the Bahamas. Storm05 16:39, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
- Also, I was banking on this to get B-Class in one day since the quality of the article is similar to your Hurricane Felix (1995) article. Storm05 16:48, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
- It is very close, but you need the damage totals. For Felix, there was no damage directly from the storm, rather it was from waves and winds. Once you get the Bahamas damage total, it could be B class. Hurricanehink 19:33, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
- I think the damage in the Bahamas is estimated to be about $1-2.5 million dollars (1929 USD) Storm05 13:43, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
- You should find a source for that. Once you get that, it will be B class. I reverted you sourcing here, because you can't source a talk page. Hurricanehink 15:13, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
- Added metric units. Storm05 15:56, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
- You should find a source for that. Once you get that, it will be B class. I reverted you sourcing here, because you can't source a talk page. Hurricanehink 15:13, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
- I think the damage in the Bahamas is estimated to be about $1-2.5 million dollars (1929 USD) Storm05 13:43, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
- It is very close, but you need the damage totals. For Felix, there was no damage directly from the storm, rather it was from waves and winds. Once you get the Bahamas damage total, it could be B class. Hurricanehink 19:33, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
- Also, I was banking on this to get B-Class in one day since the quality of the article is similar to your Hurricane Felix (1995) article. Storm05 16:48, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
- The Bahamas figure is out there somewhere if I only knew what site its on then I could easly figure out the damage this hurricane did in the Bahamas. Storm05 16:39, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
- Be sure to find the Bahamas figure, if that is the reason for the article. Hurricanehink 16:30, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
Did you find damage totals yet? Hurricanehink 13:38, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- I found some damage totals and added more infomation. Storm05 16:09, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
<--- What is the correct damage total; $675,000 or $125,000? Hurricanehink 16:22, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- $675,000 Storm05 16:41, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- OK. I fixed a few things. More todo in general is sentence structure. Looking at the 2nd paragraph in the Florida impact, it is very messy. Wind and pressure reports should be in the storm history. Never use runon sentences. They are annoying to read and are typically easy to split into 2 or more sentences. How many tornadoes did the storm develop? Just to a general read-through to fix some of the blatant errors. I fixed some, but there are a lot left to find. Hurricanehink 21:34, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- $675,000 Storm05 16:41, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Here's a link that has some more good info. Hurricanehink 21:21, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- Okay, I fixed some things and added an infobox picture, as for the wind and pressure readings, i dont know. Because alot of other hurricane articles have wind and pressure readings in the impact sections and you said that meteroligical conditions are the first thing to put in the impact section am i mistaken. Storm05 16:47, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
- Scratch what I said about the pressure. I did a general copyedit, but what does this mean? A 150 mph (235 km/h) wind gust was recorded near Key Largo and a barometric pressure reading was recorded in Key West. A pressure reading was recorded? What was the pressure? Also, how can three tornadoes touch down in four cities? Did they move through those towns, of did they touch down in those towns? Generally, good job, and I think this one is up to B class. Hurricanehink 19:16, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
Failed GA
editI failed the GA nominee because it does not meet the GA criteria.
- It is well-written - Neutral: It's not terrible, but it's not compelling
- Factually accurate - Fail: 2 citations needed
- Broad in coverage - Fail: It says the damage was extreme in the Bahamas, but the article only mentions the damage was described as extreme and that six houses were destroyed. It hardly goes into detail there. Similarly, the intro says there were well-executed preparations, resulting in only three deaths. However, the preparations section only mentions hurricane warnings. It doesn't mention any actual preparations by people which resulted in fewer deaths
- Neutral POV - Pass
- Stable - Pass
- Images - Neutral. There's a drawing and a track map, but given the date it might be hard finding another one
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GA Review
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Reviewer: TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contribs) 04:34, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- As a general note, there are mixed instances of "the Bahamas" and "The Bahamas" even accounting for their proper usages. Double check those.
- The note for monetary values in 1929 USD comes after the second damage total listed in the lede.
- "becoming a tropical depression approximately 355 mi (571 km) northeast" - Approximately and exact are too different things. 571 km is exact.
- "Fresh Creek and Staniard Creek saw extensive damage from the hurricane." - I'm confused, how are rivers damaged?
- They are creeks, but I'm fairly certain they were also districts in the Bahamas in 1929. The related sources make it pretty clear that they are communities that suffered during the storm. TheAustinMan(Talk ⬩ Edits) 23:05, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- "Nassau was also inundated by the storm surge and heavy rainfall, submerging parts of the city's southern district under over 4 ft (1.2 m) of water for several days." - Not a big deal, but I don't like the placement of under over lol.
- "Water reached the second floor of a hotel, allowing a boat to float there." - I don't think it was a matter of "allowing." The boat didn't need permission.
- "The hurricane wreaked havoc on Nassau Harbour, where many shipowners chose to remain on their ships, which were blown away and never recovered." - What happened to the shipowners?
- Their fate is not covered in the sources. TheAustinMan(Talk ⬩ Edits) 23:05, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- "...while other boats were blown out to sea." - We just established that.
- "With their homes lost, many of the 300 people who sheltered at a church in Grant's Town on New Providence Issland remained there for several weeks." - Eextra letter.
- "New building codes were enacted to better withstand the effects of hurricanes. Compliance with these codes was intended to secure buildings against winds of 75–185 mph (120–300 km/h)" - Unnecessarily large range. Can't we just say winds up to 185 mph?
- "A partial evacuation of the Everglades was conducted on September 25; several hundred sought refuge in West Palm Beach while others fled to Arcadia and Sebring." - Several hundred what?
- "while a figure of $1 million published in the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society." - Missing a word.
- "The slow forward motion contributed to torrential rainfall over South Florida, producing a 10.63 in (270 mm) rainfall total in Miami on September 28." --> The storm's slow forward motion contributed to torrential rainfall over South Florida, peaking at 10.63 in (270 mm) in Miami on September 28."?
- "Gusts of 100 mph (160 km/h) accompanied the hurricane's landfall on the Florida panhand;e" - Random semicolon.
- "In Alabama, the damage was generally minor but most pronounced in crops" - "in crops" to "to crops"?
- "with many pecans were blown from trees" - Grammar.
- "A conservative estimate from the Weather Bureau appraised damage to agriculture, highways, and at $3 million" - Missing a word.
- "$160,000 in property dmage was estimated to have been mitigated by timely flood warnings." - Spelling.
- "Total losses in South Carolina from flooding associated with the storm reached $3.829 million" - Do we need that level of precision?
- Don't see why not. As long as numbers are not being added in giving false precision, the number is as reported. TheAustinMan(Talk ⬩ Edits) 23:05, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- "October 1929 was ultimately North Carolina's rainiest October on record." - At the time...
Great work otherwise. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 04:34, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Appreciate the review. I've patched up most of these qualms, but have responded where I disagreed with suggested changes. —TheAustinMan(Talk ⬩ Edits) 23:05, 8 April 2020 (UTC)