Talk:1956 United States presidential election/Archive 1

Archive 1

STOP ADDING NON-CANDIDATES

I have noticed this in the '56, '52, '60, '64, '68, etc.. that some stupid bafoon(s) keep adding non-candidates. KENNEDY NEVER RAN IN 1956. Stop printing this stupid false info. He ran for vice president, but I was incredibly furious when I found that some idiot had put that Kennedy as a candidate in 1956. Why is someone who has no knowledge about elections making this page? I can't express how angry I am. IF SOMEONE IS NOT AN OFFICIAL, ANNOUNCED CANDIDATE, DON'T PUT THEM UP. People go on Wikipedia to learn, not to get false information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cooman456 (talk • contribs) 06:34, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Jones and Talmadge?

"An Alabama elector voted for Jones and Talmadge." Why? Who were Jones and Talmadge? Wondering simply, -- Infrogmation 00:25, 9 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Independent Electoral Vote. Walter B. Jones was a segregationist jurist in Alabama (not to be confused with the later Walter B. Jones who served in the U.S. House from North Carolina). Herman Talmadge was a right-wing U.S. Senator from Georgia. Chronicler3 21:41, 8 February 2006 (UTC) Chronicler3

"I Like Ike"

I Like Ike was in 1952, not 1956 -- (anonymous contribution)

The operative question is: was the cartoon in which that song was played also in 1952 or was it a 1956 phenomenon? The song was composed in 1950 for a musical and was rewritten to serve as a campaign song in 1952. But in 1956, people were handing out "I Still Like Ike" campaign buttons, so it's not out of the realm of possibility that a 1956 campaign cartoon could have recycled that tune. — DLJessup 00:01, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Planks?

"Both parties endorsed planks"? What does this mean? I only know the word plank in the meaning of floorboard. --Rob 12:55, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

From http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=plank:

plank (n) … 3. One of the articles of a political platform.

— DLJessup (talk) 14:32, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Plank. The position of an American political party on a given issue is called a 'plank.' Most political parties adopt a document called a 'platform' at their national nominating conventions, and each article is called a plank, such as the plank on abortion or the plank on the environment. Chronicler3 21:41, 8 February 2006 (UTC) Chronicler3

Electoral picture peculiarity

Why is the graphic depiction of electoral votes skewed? Rarely nowadays does one see democratic votes colored red and and republican votes blue. --maru (talk) Contribs 20:52, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

This post has been copied to Wikipedia talk:Style for U.S. presidential election, yyyy#Electoral picture peculiarity. Please direct your responses there.

— DLJessup (talk) 21:52, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Eisenhower home state?

For a long time the article (I believe correctly) stated that Ike ran from Pennsylvania. Then one day some ignorant poerson changed it to Kansas, with DLJessup promptly changing it back to Pennsylvania. Persistant, the ignorant person changed it back to Kansas, but this time the DLJessup changed it to New York. Did he learn something new or simply confuse the 1956 election with the 1952 election?

As a side note, I have serious reason to believe that Frelinghuysen ran from New York in 1844 [1] and some reason to believe that LeMay ran from California in 1968 [2]

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.125.168.51 (talk • contribs) 23:40, 11 March 2006 (UTC).

It's a little hard to remember what happened there—it's been ten months, my initial revert occurred the day before my wedding, and the change to New York happened after I got back from my honeymoon.

In any case, the National Archives seems to believe that Eisenhower officially resided in New York.

I think you're right about the 1844 Frelinghuysen case, but it's closer run than you might think. The National Archives lists Frelinghuysen as being from New Jersey, and even on the Journal of the Senate page you cited, the Vermont electors listed Frelinghuysen as being from New Jersey. What tips it for me is that, in 1844, Frelinghuysen was President of New York University. Even though New York University was close to the New Jersey border, being located in New York City, I doubt that the technology of the day could support Frelinghuysen maintaining his residence in New Jersey.

As for the 1968 LeMay case, the National Archives agrees with your source, so I think that the page needs to be revised.

— DLJessup (talk) 21:20, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

It seems that you added the Dave Leip homestate link in the same edit which you changed it to NY. What probably happened is that you saw it had been changed back to Kansas and couldn't remember if it was PA or NY, so you checked Leip and then added the link so the Kansas-insistant person wouldn't try again.

Let me say this: Dave Leip is definately the authoritative source on a lot of things regarding presidential elections but unfortunately homestates is not one of them. Dave appears to have taken all of his homestate data from National Archives site you mention. However, at the bottom of that National Arhives page it says its source is the Senate Manual [3]. Oddly, the information is not the same as it describes Eisenhower as from PA (and also lists Nixon as from CA in '72 while the Archives have him as from NY again). It is important to note that all of these have Frelinghuysen from NJ as well as Kemp from NY (The wikipedia page correctly states that he ran from MD [4]), so in conclusion we really can't trust any of these sources. One of the most accurate sources I have found is the Maryland Manual. In the 1957-58 edition it lists Ike as from PA [5] (Unfortunately, LeMay was selected too late to be on the ballot in MD, so we're still mostly in the dark about his homestate. However, besides the contemporary article I linked to, I also found this 1966 letter which places him in CA [6]). Besides the Manual, I think the official report of the convention should be enough to solidify the bid for PA [7]

24.125.168.51 23:50, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Republican Nomination

The authoritative history of presidential nominating conventions is Richard C. Bain & Judith H. Parris's Convention Decisions and Voting Records (Washington DC: Brookings Institution, 1973). The 1956 Republican National Convention is detailed on pages 299-301. It states that the Joe Smith incident took place during the vice presidential roll call, but that Eisenhower and Nixon were both re-nominated unanimously. Chronicler3 03:30, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Democratic National Convention

I hope that in the future those who are making changes will go to the trouble to get the full names of candidates. This information is not that hard to find.

Frank J. Lausche was the Democratic Governor of Ohio who was running for the US Senate in 1956.

Rather than going into detail about the names of the other candidates, an easy source is here: http://www.ourcampaigns.com/RaceDetail.html?RaceID=58374 . Chronicler3 03:35, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Pyrrhic Defeat?

what in the name of god is a "pyrrhic defeat"? [anonymous]

I've heard of Pyrrhic victory but never Pyrrhic defeat, and the article on Pyrrhic victory doesn't provide any information. Can we expain what is meant in other terms? Cryptoid 19:10, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

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