Talk:1960–61 European Cup
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Malmo
edithttp://www.rsssf.com/ec/ec196061.html Its IFK Malmö not Malmö FF how repisentiv Sweden.Wolfmann 21:28, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
Rapid Wien - Benfica
editAccording to the article, the score of the match Rapid Wien-Benfica is 1-1, but I've found out some sources which adfirm that this match was abandoned and then Uefa awarded a win to Benfica. In fact, this article by El Mundo Deportivo, this blog and this website adfirm that Uefa actually awarded a 3-0 win to Benfica. On the other hand, Uefa.com declares that the score is 1-1. Which is the truth? --VAN ZANT (talk) 10:40, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
- Well I see no reason to question those sources. As Rapid Wien were the home team it would seem likely that crowd trouble causing the game to be abandoned would result in some sort of punishment for the Austrians. The authorities never take the score of the match at the point it was abandoned as the final result as far as I can remember. Of course 1-1 or 3-0 Benfica were the victors either way, so the guys at uefa.com probably didn't give it as much thought as you clearly have. I have edited the article to reflect your discovery. Thank you.--EchetusXe 14:21, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
- I left the two goalscorers on the info box. I guess technically they did not score as the match was abandoned, but I left them there anyway.--EchetusXe 14:24, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
- RSSSF say the score was allowed to stand, and I can certainly think of other cases where that happened. As two of the three sources above look less than reliable to me (one is a blog and one was blocked by my machine saying it was a threat!), I don't think it's clear-cut at all, so maybe the article should mention both versions in a sort of "some sources say.......while others say......." kind of fashion.........? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 14:46, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
- Agree with Chris; the 1–1 should indeed be left because of WP:RS issues. Further, this site gives a little bit more of a background on the events leading to the abandoned match. --Soccer-holicI hear voices in my head... 14:53, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
- Games used to be abandoned with scores unchanged fairly regularly. Google 'match abandoned' and 'result stood' and you'll get hundreds. Most famous one I can think of is the 1974 Manchester derby. Stu.W UK (talk) 15:02, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
- hmm, I put it back to 1-1. I wonder if the first leg finishing 3-0 in Benfica's favour is just a coincidence in all this.--EchetusXe 17:31, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
- According to the Italian book Annuario del Calcio Mondiale 2005-06, page 851, the first time in which Uefa modified a result and assigned the 3-0 win was during the season 1990-91 and the matches were the following: Olympique de Marseille-AC Milan 1-0 (then Uefa awarded a 3-0 win to Olympique de Marseille) and Dynamo Dresden-Crvena Zvezda 1-2 (then Uefa awarded a 3-0 win to Crvena Zvezda). This book doesn't mention Rapid Wien-Benfica, so the correct result was surely 1-1. --VAN ZANT (talk) 20:18, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
- hmm, I put it back to 1-1. I wonder if the first leg finishing 3-0 in Benfica's favour is just a coincidence in all this.--EchetusXe 17:31, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
- Games used to be abandoned with scores unchanged fairly regularly. Google 'match abandoned' and 'result stood' and you'll get hundreds. Most famous one I can think of is the 1974 Manchester derby. Stu.W UK (talk) 15:02, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
- Agree with Chris; the 1–1 should indeed be left because of WP:RS issues. Further, this site gives a little bit more of a background on the events leading to the abandoned match. --Soccer-holicI hear voices in my head... 14:53, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
- RSSSF say the score was allowed to stand, and I can certainly think of other cases where that happened. As two of the three sources above look less than reliable to me (one is a blog and one was blocked by my machine saying it was a threat!), I don't think it's clear-cut at all, so maybe the article should mention both versions in a sort of "some sources say.......while others say......." kind of fashion.........? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 14:46, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
- I left the two goalscorers on the info box. I guess technically they did not score as the match was abandoned, but I left them there anyway.--EchetusXe 14:24, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
Orphaned references in 1960–61 European Cup
editI check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of 1960–61 European Cup's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "attendance":
- From Chelsea F.C.: "All Time League Attendance Records". 22 May 2011. Archived from the original on 11 January 2012. Retrieved 8 November 2013.
- From 2012 UEFA Champions League Final: "Full Time Report, Final – Saturday 19 May 2012" (PDF). UEFA.com. Union of European Football Associations. 19 May 2012. Retrieved 19 May 2012.
- From 1963 European Cup Final: "UEFA Champions League – Statistics Handbook 2012/13" (PDF). UEFA.com. Union of European Football Associations. p. 129. Retrieved 22 September 2013.
- From 2005 UEFA Champions League Final: "UEFA Champions League – Statistics Handbook 2012/13" (PDF). UEFA.com. Union of European Football Associations. p. 141. Retrieved 22 September 2013.
- From 1965 European Cup Final: "UEFA Champions League – Statistics Handbook 2012/13" (PDF). UEFA.com. Union of European Football Associations. p. 130. Retrieved 22 September 2013.
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 12:34, 9 May 2014 (UTC)