Talk:1973 CECAFA Cup/GA1
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Reviewer: The C of E (talk · contribs) 08:41, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
I am not entirely convinced that this is ready for GA status at this moment. I feel that the block of text in the lead is mostly about the competition itself rather than this particular year's edition. Most of that info isn't really relevant and what is left is megre. Sourcing is also an issue because there is no inline source or reports for the matches. There is also contradictions in the tables, it says that "Zambia B" participated but in the tournament tables it says that it was "Zambia" who participated. For those reasons I feel that this is not yet ready for GA status. I will give time for a response but I feel that the work required to bring it to GA status would take a large amount of time and I think this nom should be rejected at this moment in time. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 08:41, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
- The C of E It was the first edition, so some background, i.e. how the tournament came about, seems logical, and is what the readers would expect. The sources are after the last match, if you really want me to individually source each one I will. This was an African tournament in 1973, there aren't any match reports, there are lists of results from the tournament. Lastly, regarding length, there is nothing else to add: I have input what I feel is relevant, and there is literally nothing else I could find to add. If you find or suggest anything, I will add it, but given that this was 30 years ago, there isn't much material. Thanks, Matty.007 10:09, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
- Right, I'm still unsure if this fulfils rule 3.a of the GAC in that it doesn't have the details of some of the matches and I don't think it would be right to make a GA out of an article that is one opening paragraph and a summary description of the group stage. I do feel that more meat in the article would be needed. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 08:30, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
- The C of E: what do you think is missing? There is no data available. I cannot add information that simply doesn't exist. This isn't a stub, and no-where does it say that short articles cannot be GAs. As far as I am aware, all the info there is up to scratch, and as I have said, there is no data available to add that I found. This is a 1970s African tournament. In context, the South African apartheid was ongoing: an African football tournament didn't really bother Europe and America. Therefore, there is no limitation to this being a GA. Thanks, Matty.007 16:21, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
- The C of E: will this be reviewed before the end of this round of the WikiCup? Thanks, Matty.007 17:00, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
- The C of E: what do you think is missing? There is no data available. I cannot add information that simply doesn't exist. This isn't a stub, and no-where does it say that short articles cannot be GAs. As far as I am aware, all the info there is up to scratch, and as I have said, there is no data available to add that I found. This is a 1970s African tournament. In context, the South African apartheid was ongoing: an African football tournament didn't really bother Europe and America. Therefore, there is no limitation to this being a GA. Thanks, Matty.007 16:21, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
- Right, I'm still unsure if this fulfils rule 3.a of the GAC in that it doesn't have the details of some of the matches and I don't think it would be right to make a GA out of an article that is one opening paragraph and a summary description of the group stage. I do feel that more meat in the article would be needed. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 08:30, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
- @Matty.007: I will give it a review though I do have my doubts about the length. Nevertheless I will put those aside and aim for this to be reviewed.
- First point is that Zambia is referred to as Zambia B at first mention but then just Zambia in the tables. inconsistent and needs to be clarified.
- Done. Thanks, Matty.007 19:53, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
- Inline ref needed for the tie-break criteria
- Is it really dubious? They were even on points, they played a tie-break. We can see both of those facts, the rules of football dictate a tie-break, I don't feel is it challengable. Thanks, Matty.007 19:53, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
- Was it Tanzania or Tanganyika who competeted? The opening sentence contradicts the rest of the article on that. Also Zanzibar is part of Tanzania, why did they compete separate from Tanzania (if it was Tanzania)
- Tanganyika, fixed. Well, Zanzibar's football team has its own article, and I would presume there was something it there. Thanks, Matty.007 19:53, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
- Inline ref needed for Note section.
- WP:CALC? I don't know, again it wasn't explicitly said but that's how it adds up. Thanks, Matty.007 19:53, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
- Fix these and I will promote. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 17:36, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
- Replied to all The C of E. Thanks for the review, Matty.007 19:53, 22 June 2014 (UTC)