Talk:1982 Kenyan coup attempt

New name?

Since the coup never succeeded, wouldn't "1982 Kenyan coup attempt" be a more appropriate title? Just a thought. Josh 19:39, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Looking at Category:Attempted coups, it seems 1982 Kenyan coup d'état attempt would be the most consistent. Unless there are objections, I'll move the page after 48 hours. Timrollpickering 19:06, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Who are Obuon and Oteyo?

Obuon and Oteyo are named as the other members, along with Sr. Private Ochuka, of the People's Redemption Council (PRC), which led the coup attempt. As a reader, I wanted to know their full names and backgrounds, if it was available. What I found was that there were at least eight or nine main members of the PRC who led the coup attempt, along with numerous others, and most don’t show up in the article. Perhaps the ones named as primary plotters in credible sources should be mentioned in the article?

Due to my chronic illness, which causes severe neurocognitive and visual impairments if I try for too long, I've hit the wall and need to stop. But I did want to share what I've found.

The PRC comprised a group mostly of young servicemen of the Kenyan Air Force, many of whom are mentioned in at least one of these sources:

•   The Daily Nation (Kenya's paper of record)^[1],[2]);

•   The New York Times^[3]; and

•   KenyanList.net (KL.net): TBTs^{^} and History^[4] (a Kenyan history forum with several articles about the coup. See also a secondary reference regarding KL.net versus KenyanList.com (KL.com) ^[5]).

Here are eight of the Air Force coup-plotters mentioned in the sources below^*, as far I could go with them before I had to stop.

People's Redemption Council – The Coup Plot’s Wingmen (and Pawns):

1)    Sr. Private Hezekiah Ochuka (Principal)

2)    Sr. Sergeant Pancras Okumu Oteyo (Principal)

3)    Captain ??? Agola (Member)

4)    Corporal Fenwicks Chesoli (Member)

5)    Sergeant Joseph Ogidi Obuon (Member)

6)    Sergeant Richard Obuon Guya (Member)

7)    Corporal ??? Ombok (Member)

8)    Sergeant Samuel Opiyo (Member)

I hope this is helpful and someone has the spoons to carry it forward.

(With best wishes, especially to my Kenyan buddies, from someone who was there when it all went down back when...*whew!*)

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References:

[1]   The Daily Nation, article without byline, dated 2 August 2013 (upd. 3 July 2020): "Intrigues that led to collapse of power plot" (accessed 14 September 2024). https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/intrigues-that-led-to-collapse-of-power-plot--880142

[2]   The Daily Nation, article by Nyambega Gisesa, dated 1 August 2013: "Intrigues that led to collapse of power plot" (accessed 14 September 2024). https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/intrigues-that-led-to-collapse-of-power-plot--880142

[3]   The New York Times, article by Alan Cowell, dated 29 August 1982, "Leader of Kenyan coup attempt said to have been a private" (accessed 14 September 2024). https://www.nytimes.com/1982/08/29/world/leader-of-kenyan-coup-attempt-said-to-have-been-a-private.html

[4]   KenyanList.net: TBT^† and History Forum: 82 Coup d’État, numerous articles; see note in [5] and footnote (accessed 14 September 2024). https://kenyanlist.net/index.php?threads/82-coup-d%C3%A9tat.19845/

[5]   Reddit/Kenya/comments/…: a user discussion about the demise-and-rebirth of KenyanList.com (KL.com), an online forum about all topics Kenyan, which closed in 2015 after a long run when the site owner died. Both KL.net (link in [4] above) and KL.com (not linked here) appear to be reboots of the original version of KenyanList.com, and both have nearly identical user interfaces to each other as well as to the original. As far as I could tell from my limited search, of the two descendant KL sites, KL.net is the only one with a history section that has articles relating to the 1982 coup. The Reddit discussion at the link here provides background on KenyanList.com and its .com descendant, for avoidance of confusion during searches (accessed 14 September 2024). https://www.reddit.com/r/Kenya/comments/initfe/kenyanlistcom_resurfaces_with_its_original_look/

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^*Most sources report that there were numerous servicemembers who belonged to the PRC, with all sources identifying at least a few of the members. The first Daily Nation article^[1] however, lists nine men. Two of the nine on that list appear to be duplicates. Sgt. Richard Obuon shows up twice. Also, there are two Oteyos on the list, with different ranks: a Sr. Sgt. Oteyo, with no given names available; and a Sr. Corporal Pancras Okumu Oteyo with both his Western/ Christian given-name and his Luo Nation given-name listed. Since I found multiple references to the fact that it was seven Air Force servicemembers who were PRC members, I’ve assumed in my list above that the entry Sr. Sgt. Oteyo without any given names is actually a duplication of Sr. Corporal Oteyo, reported before his actual rank of Sr. Corporal was known.

^†TBT = Throwback Thursdays (It's been so long since I'd seen this term, I had to look it up! 😂). LauraJMG (talk) 23:06, 14 September 2024 (UTC)