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Reviewer: Hurricanehink (talk · contribs) 04:39, 3 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

More later. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:39, 3 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

  • "An area of disturbed weather developed a circulation on August 12 and was respectively upgraded upgraded into Tropical Depression Twelve nearly 700 mi (1,100 km) south of the Baja California Peninsula." - why "respectively"?
  • Since the EPHC liked to declare storms when the got an LLC. YE Pacific Hurricane 15:10, 3 August 2012 (UTC)Reply
  • " near 22 °N 110 °W on August 14" - TC articles generally avoid exact locations unless they're significant.
  • "The final cyclone of the season formed from a tropical disturbance in the ITCZ.[1] The disturbance moved at about 10 mph (20 km/h). The disturbance was declared Tropical Depression Twenty-One at 0600 UTC September 19." - this could be combined into two sentences. Also, what direction did it move at? And 10 mph is 16 km/h, don't know where you got 20 k/h from. Also, you say it was the final cyclone of the season, but then you describe another TD after that.
  • "at 1800 UTC near the 140°W line" - that isn't the first time you mention 140 W, but that is the first time you link it. How come? Why didn't you mention earlier that CPHC's responsibility is between 140 and the IDL?
    • It is now since I fixed the above. the CHPC's boundaries IMO is beyond the scope of this article. :P
  • "A low pressure trough extended a large area, making further development very unlikely." - I don't get what this means. I thought low-pressure trough were just areas of low pressures, so how would that preclude development?
  • "The stationary storm had dissipated within 30 hours of formation" - does that refer to the trough or the TD? Wording is ambiguous.
  • "Even though no more official systems developed, the National Hurricane Center remarked that an unnamed tropical storm may have formed in November." - the NHC did not say that. It was one person, not the entire agency.
  • As a blanket comment, make sure all units are properly formatted. Make sure if the first one is rounded, the second one is too. For miles, they should be rounded to the nearest 10, ditto km.
  • "the system was upgraded into Tropical Storm Agatha" - is "into" appropriate here?
  • Any impact from Agatha aside from rainfall?
  • "The rest of Mexico was hit by 1–3 in (25–76 mm) of rainfall." - it becomes redundant by this point. Any impact from the TD?
  • Meh, that's a problem with EPAC storms. No real impact, but I did find something that there was a aldslide in Mexico City that damaged 50 homes, but I have no proof it was from TD 2E. YE Pacific Hurricane 15:10, 3 August 2012 (UTC)Reply
  • "strengthening into the third tropical depression of the 1986 season" - is that appropriate? Systems don't generally strengthen into TD's in the EPAC
  • "Winds reached 40 mph (60 km/h) on June 18, indicating that the depression intensified into Tropical Storm Blas." - winds reached, based on what?
  • " Later that day, its circulation had became well-defined enough to upgrade the disturbance into Tropical Depression Four-E." - the circulation upgraded itself?
  • "Winds reached 40 mph (65 km/h), upgrading the system into Tropical Storm Celia on June 26." - poor wording, same problem as Celia. The winds were likely estimated, so once they reached 40 mph the EPHC upgraded the TD to TS.
  • "The fifth tropical cyclone of the season, formed as a tropical disturbance on July 2" - why, the comma?
  • "Moving at about 13 mph (21 km/h), the disturbance entered warmer water and strengthening rapidly. " - grammar, what direction was it moving, and how can a disturbance intensify rapidly?
  • "While clouds spread northward over the US states of Arizona and southern California on July 6; the cyclone dissipated on July 7" - while is inappropriate connector (since while implies it happened at the same time), and the semicolon is inappropriate since the first part is not a complete clause.
  • "During the afternoon of July 16, a tropical depression formed, and within 12 hours it strengthened into a tropical storm" - where?
  • " On July 18, Estelle intensified into a hurricane, and located in a favorable environment, Estelle continued strengthening to become the first major hurricane of the season on July 20." - avoid saying Estelle twice
  • Source for 2012 USD in Estelle's section?
  • "However, the only deaths reported were two drownings in Oahu that occurred on July 23 because of rough surf caused by Estelle" - only? Those were two of the only deaths in the season
  • " The storm quickly developed a well-defined eye and three hours later"... three hours after developing an eye?
  • Don't overlink. And watch where you're linking things. Frank's section has the second linkage of "sea surface temperatures", but you mentioned that several times previously.
  • You sure Frank became extratropical?
  • You should include some of the WPAC history of Georgette, to be consistent with other basin crossers and including at least some of their whole history.
  • "A tropical wave crossed Southwestern Mexico and Belize in mid-August. A tropical disturbance developed about 52 mi (84 km) south of Acapulco on August 15" - was the disturbance the TW? And note the distance. How is it "about 52"? Such a random approximation.
  • "Rainfall along the southern coast reached 1 in (25 mm) in some places, with totals in excess of 5 in (130 mm) in isolated locations. Further north, rainfall was more scattered. The maximum rainfall was 9.25 in (235 mm) in Reforma, near the southern part of the country. In all, rainfall totals were recorded in over 2,000 locations." - first, why mention the "excess of 5 in", since you also mention the peak total? Also, what does the last sentence even mean?
  • " Satellite imagery began to show signs of developing a circulation, and the disturbance became a tropical depression." - when?
  • "Steadily moved towards the west over 85 °F (29 °C) ocean temperatures, the depression intensified into Tropical Storm Javier hours later" - bad grammar in the first clause, and hours later from when?
  • "Despite an increase in forward speed, Tropical Storm Javier underwent rapid intensification, reaching hurricane intensity at 0900 UTC August 21." - what does forward speed have to do with RI?
  • "A major hurricane is Category 3 or higher on the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Scale" - why would you mention this in the second MH of the season? And, before you even mentioned the storm became a C3!
  • "Meanwhile, the storm's motions slowed and sharply turned towards the north and eventually towards the northwest" - poor start to a paragraph, what are "motions", and when was this happening?
  • You never say that Javier was a C4 the first time around
  • "Hurricane Javier had weakened directly into a Category 2 hurricane" - it weakened from C4 to C2?
  • There's no need to keep mentioning the exact water temperatures. It gets old.
  • "Due to the former, 600,000 people went to the beaches" - what happened to the 600,000 people?

I'm going to stop here, since there clearly many issues with the article. It looks like it was rushed through to get to GAN. Just, a lot of the wordings in the article are confusing, and that is from someone who knows hurricanes pretty well. Try getting someone to copyedit it (GAN isn't meant for copyediting). Again, check wikilinks, redundancies, and stop worrying so much about what the EPHC said in their report :P There's no need to keep saying a disturbance formed on X day, since that'd be like mentioning every time in an Atlantic article when a storm was invested. Sometimes, you can just say "A tropical wave spawned a tropical depression on August X". Also, cut down on the water temps. Sorry, but I'm going to fail it. There are a lot of problems. It shouldn't take too long to fix though. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 13:34, 3 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

Its hardly rushed IMO, I made 100+ edits, sent it to a GAN and PR. On the disturbance part, I could see mentioning that for the ATl, all season articles should have a mention of origins IMO. I put the water temps in so the sections are not stubby short. After all, the ideal length for the season section is about the length of the infobox IMO. YE Pacific Hurricane 23:47, 3 August 2012 (UTC)Reply
But every storm had the same origins, and almost every storm mentions the same water temperature. It becomes quite repetitive. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 12:55, 4 August 2012 (UTC)Reply
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