Talk:1990 Tour de France

Jersey progress

I have almost compiled the complete jersey progress of the 1990 Tour de France. See the table below, with sources included. The grey cells are not sourced, but I am pretty sure of them. The empty cells are yet unknown. If there is a source for these data, please let me know, it would make this year's Tour (and previous Tours) articles better. The way it is now, I don't include it, I would like to complete the information first. This is not original research by the way: it is documented (the major source is a newspaper), it is just hard to access. --EdgeNavidad (talk) 15:30, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Stage	Yellow	Green	Polkadot	White	Team
P	Marie, Thierry	Marie, Thierry			PDM
1	Bauer, Steve	Maassen, Frans
2	Bauer, Steve	Maassen, Frans	Chiappucci, Claudio	Ekimov	Z
3	Bauer, Steve		Chiapucci	Ekimov	Z
4	Bauer, Steve	Ludwig	Chiapucci	Ekimov	Z
5	Bauer, Steve	Ludwig	Chiapucci	Ekimov	Z
6	Bauer, Steve	Ludwig	Konichev	Ekimov	Buckler
7	Bauer, Steve	Ludwig	Konichev	Ekimov	Buckler
8	Bauer, Steve	Ludwig	Konichev	Ekimov	Buckler
9	Bauer, Steve	Ludwig	Konichev	Ekimov	Buckler
10	Pensen, Ronan	Ludwig	Claveyrolat	Delion	Z
11	Pensen, Ronan	Ludwig	Claveyrolat	Delion	Z
12	Chiappucci, Claudio	Ludwig	Claveyrolat	Delion	Z
13	Chiappucci, Claudio	Ludwig	Claveyrolat	Delion	Z
14	Chiappucci, Claudio	Ludwig	Claveyrolat	Delion	Z
15	Chiappucci, Claudio	Ludwig	Claveyrolat	Delion	Z
16	Chiappucci, Claudio	Ludwig	Claveyrolat	Delion	Z
17	Chiappucci, Claudio	Ludwig	Claveyrolat	Delion	Z
18	Chiappucci, Claudio	Ludwig	Claveyrolat	Delion	Z
19	Chiappucci, Claudio	Ludwig	Claveyrolat	Delion	Z
20	LeMond, Greg	Ludwig	Claveyrolat	Delion	Z
21	LeMond, Greg	Ludwig	Claveyrolat	Delion	Z

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GA Review

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Reviewer: MWright96 (talk · contribs) 08:50, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Am happy to review this edition of the Tour de France. The review is being conducted as part of the GAN Backlog Drive of April to May 2020. MWright96 (talk) 08:50, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Lead

• "The race consisted of 21 stages and a prologue, over a total distance of 3,403.8 km (2,115 mi)" - you can shorten this sentence so that it says The 3,403.8 km (2,115.0 mi) race consisted of 21 stages and a prologue.
• "ahead of Claudio Chiappucci (Carrera Jeans–Vagabond) and Erik Breukink (PDM–Concorde)." - maybe state what Chiappucci and Breukink were second and third respectively
• "also from the escape group, took over." - clarify that Bauer took over the lead or first place
• "and Dimitri Konyshev (Alfa Lum) the first Soviet rider to win a stage at the Tour." - was the first

All  Done Zwerg Nase (talk) 17:54, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Teams

• "Sixteen teams qualified based" - Try not to start a sentence with numbers whether spelt out or not
• "based on the FICP team ranking," - rankings
• "enabled by the changing political climate." - please make it more clearer to readers what you mean here per WP:EASTEREGG

All  Done Zwerg Nase (talk) 17:56, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Pre-race favourites

• "He was considered overweight due to lack of training[18]" - a comma is missing from the reference

I will admit that I am not the best at English comma rules (are there any?), but I was only aware of an Oxford comma between three or more conjuctions (as it states in the article). As far as I know, none should be placed if there are only two things connected with an "and"?

• "A crash on stage 5 of the Giro d'Italia had forced Fignon to abandon the race he had won the year before." - how about plain 1989 instead?

 Done

• "Pedro Delgado, the winner of 1988," - of the 1988 tour,

 Done

• "His best result that season had been second place" - been a second place?

 Done Zwerg Nase (talk) 18:00, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Route and stages

• "The race had its Grand Départ (opening stages) in and around the Futuroscope theme park. The owners of the park paid around $1 million for the right to host the beginning of the race." - I think these two sentences could be merged into each other with the appropriate punctuation and grammar

 Done

• "from Geneva to Saint-Gervais, at 118.5 km (73.6 mi).[40][36]" - please put the refs in numerical order

 Done, you don't really notice these things if you just type in the references... Zwerg Nase (talk) 18:02, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Grand Départ at Futuroscope

• "a protest by sheep farmers held up the peloton," - delayed

 Done

• "and caused several crashes, including for Delgado." - inculding one involving Delago.

 Done

• "Chiappucci took the points at the mountain sprints," - don't you mean points lead?

Well no, he takes the points at the sprints, meaning that with them, he takes the lead, which is part of the second part of that sentence.

• "Fignon's Castorama team finished fifth, 33 seconds slower than Panasonic, but 20 seconds faster than LeMond's Z team," - try to avoid repetition of the word "team" in the same sentence

 Done

North-west

• "Fignon punctured, but he was able to rejoin shortly after." - I think you want to clarify that Fignon punctured a tyre

 Done

• "After 92 km (57 mi) the race was interrupted by another protest from sheep farmers," - It would to know what the sheep farmers were protesting against

I kind of left that out on purpose, since I did not want to stray away too much from the topic at hand... but if you feel that this is necessary information, I can include it.

Well only a brief mention about what they were protesting over would not do too much harm IMO MWright96 (talk) 19:18, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

@MWright96: Have added the info at the first instance of a blockade in the paragraph before. Zwerg Nase (talk) 14:36, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

• "unaware that Argentin had already finished.[58][54]" - refs in numerical order please

 Done

• "Through bonuses at intermediate sprints," - obtaining bonuses

 Done

• "by far the longest at 301 km (187 mi), was run in rainy conditions." - wet weather

 Done Zwerg Nase (talk) 18:16, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

North-east and Jura

• "Chiappucci punctured twice," - sustained two punctured tyres,
• "Raúl Alcalá (PDM–Concorde), also a late starter, was the fastest," - fastest rider
• "finishing three-and-a-half minutes behind Alcalá." - can be changed to 3½ minutes
• I believe the term Eastern bloc can also begin with two capital letters

All  Done Zwerg Nase (talk) 18:18, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Alps

• "As Hernández slowed, Claveyrolat took over and continued on alone," - took over what exactly? the lead of the stage?
• "who set the tempo in the group through the ensuing valley" - pace

All  Done Zwerg Nase (talk) 18:21, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Massif Central transistion

• "but it took until the climb of the Côte d'Ardoix at 33 km (21 mi) for a thirty-rider group" - 30 for consistency with MOS:NUMERAL
• "Seventeen more riders caught up to him after 91 km (57 mi)." - same issue as above
• "but he was caught on the final ascent to Causse Noir near Millau." - caught by whom?
• "The now 19 rider strong group increased their advantage to up to eight minutes," - 19-rider

All  Done Zwerg Nase (talk) 18:24, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Pyreenes

• I think both paragraphs could be divided into two for better readability
• "In very hot conditions," - weather
• "LeMond moved to the front and set a devastating pace" - try not to use non-neutral wording such as "devastating"
• "quickly snapped' his head around" - turned
• "to verify LeMond wasn't going to challenge him" - no contractions please per MOS:CONTRACTION

I should read the sentences I haven't written myself better...

• Delink American per MOS:OVERLINK

We should avoid those terms anyway, so I changed it to LeMond.

All  Done Zwerg Nase (talk) 18:28, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Final stages

• "1:28 ahead of Dag Otto Lauritzen (7-Eleven)." - 1:28 minutes

 Done

• "Alcalá and Induráin moved back into the top-ten riders in the general classification." - reutrned to the top ten

 Done

• "He countered criticism that he had not shown enough fighting spirit by not taking an individual stage" - individual stage win

 Done

• "Particular praise was given after the Tour to Miguel Induráin," - please state if possible whom distributed the praise to Induráin

Have named one in the next half sentence, hope that is OK. Zwerg Nase (talk) 18:30, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Classification leadership and minor prizes

• "In addition, time bonuses could be won during intermediate sprints during the first half of the race." - try to attempt to avoid repetition of the word "during" in this sentence

 Done

• "The cyclist with the most points leadthe classification," - typo; should be led+

 Done I keep making this mistake over and over...

• "with fourth category being the easiest and hors category" - a fourth category being the easiest and a hors category

Have switched the sentence around a bit.

• "The cyclist with the most points lead the classification," - typo; should be led

 Done Exhibit B.

• "The 1989 Tour had included the combination classification, which was also no longer run." - is there any information that states why the combination classification was no longer ran from the 1990 Tour onwards?

Let me get back to you on that. I feel like I have a book somewhere going into detail about it, but I have to look it up.

Found it. Now  Done Zwerg Nase (talk) 15:03, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

• "after each mass-start stage to the cyclist considered most combative." - considered the most combative.

 Done

• "This prize was won by Miguel Ángel Martínez Torres.[135][43]" - please place the references that cite this sentence in numerical order

 Done

• "The Tour de France paid out 10,073,450 French franc as prize money in total," - paid out F10,073,450 in total prize monies,

 Done Zwerg Nase (talk) 18:35, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Doping and penalties

• "Eric Vanderaerden (Buckler–Colnago–Decca) was expelled from the race on stage 11 for being pushed." - Do we know how/who pushed Vanderaerden that led to his disqualification from the 1990 tour? If so, please add that information into the article

 Done Zwerg Nase (talk) 17:10, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

References

• References 26 and 35 are missing the author of the respective articles

 Done

• Reference 30 is dead and needs archiving

Internet Archive is down at the moment, will do this once it's back up. Zwerg Nase (talk) 17:09, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

 Done Zwerg Nase (talk) 18:07, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Am going to place the review on hold to allow the nominator to address/respond to each of the queries raised above. MWright96 (talk) 16:46, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the thorough review! I have addressed the points above, though some are open questions, so please feel free to go through them and reply. There is one thing I still need to look up, will do so ASAP. Zwerg Nase (talk) 18:36, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

@MWright96: I think I am through :) Zwerg Nase (talk) 15:03, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

@Zwerg Nase: Yes indeed. Now promoting to GA class. MWright96 (talk) 15:59, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

@MWright96: Thank you! Zwerg Nase (talk) 14:42, 13 April 2020 (UTC)