Talk:1994–95 Major League Baseball strike

"Michael Jordan's baseball career shortened by strike"

I changed the wording because to me it tries to make it sound like the strike was responsible for Jordan leaving baseball. In my opinion it was because he simply wasn't good enough to play professionally. He batted .202 in Double-A. The odds of him ever getting to the majors- based on ability and not as a publicity stunt- were astronomical. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Itsnotme549 (talk • contribs) 19:16, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Clean up and possible merge

I've cleaned this up, but perhaps it should be merged with History of baseball in the United States. The JPS 21:57, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I disagree. I think the 1994 baseball strike is notable enough and can be told in enough detail to warrant its own article. —Cleared as filed. 04:00, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

Couldn't dissagree more, it is very notable. Enough to have it's own page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.70.109.24 (talk) 19:55, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Confusion over length of strike

The article as written contradicts itself, when it says at one point it ended March 31, another point it says April 2, and both times it says the strike lasted 232 days. The "232 days" figure appears to be canon, but if it ended March 31, it would be a 230-day-old strike. If it ended April 2, that would be a 232-day-old strike. But if you count the actual days the ballplayers were striking, then Aug. 12 through March 31 would be 231 days. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Kirchherr 02:31, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Ichiro and Matsui

"Ichiro Suzuki of the Orix Blue Wave and Hideki Matsui of the Yomiuri Giants became well-known to American audiences through coverage of Japanese baseball which replaced MLB coverage in some media outlets. Matsui, a young 20-year old star, was part of the kyojin's championship run."

Really? Because I'm sure I had never heard of either until they came to the U.S. to play. This really needs a cite of some kind. Tallbuildings 21:08, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

My recollection is, just speaking as someone who actually lived though those dark days of the strike, that Japanese baseball got little if any extra attention from the American media. Timothy Horrigan (talk) 15:59, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

1994 Midterm Election influence

"Some political analysts believed the 1994 mid-term elections were influenced by the strike as a negative connotation towards labor unions, and the dangers of the labor unions led to voters turning out against labor unions."

I'd like to know which serious political analysts ever offered this? Maybe John Cruk said this as a joke on baseball tonight, but I don't think that anybody with any brains would ever give it any credit in deciding the elections. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 192.80.61.168 (talk) 20:33, 4 April 2007 (UTC).

It seems unlikely that the strike caused the Republican landslide in the 1994 midterm election, given the fact that attendance and TV and radio audience numbers went down only a little after the strike. Timothy Horrigan (talk) 16:11, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Season standings

I recently removed the season standings from 1981 Major League Baseball strike, as they're not related to the strike and can be found in the MLB articles. In a few days I'm going to remove the standings from this article as well.--Bookandcoffee 21:40, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

That's total suck, dude. That information is the reason people look for this article. You took the information I wanted and made it harder to find -- matt — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.248.134.223 (talk) 21:32, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Lockout

I believe this work stoppage was, strictly speaking, a lockout rather than a strike, since the players offered at various times to return to work without a contract and were rebuffed by the owners. Someone should go back and check out contemporary sources on that point for this story which is currently largely cite-free and not particularly fact-full either. I believe the New York Times has all its articles online, if no one feels like digging through microfilm. Timothy Horrigan (talk) 04:46, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

With a little trawl through the Google (about 12 pages worth), I pulled up a good mess of sources and added them to the links section for now. When I have more time, I'll see if I can add some inline cites. This article chronicles a pivotal moment in baseball and sports history, and needs to be of a higher quality than it's currently at. Duncan1800 (talk) 06:05, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

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--JeffGBot (talk) 02:53, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Officials also locked out?

The last sentence on the paragraph on "Consequences" says:

The regular officials continued to be locked out until May 3.

A lockout of officials is not mentioned anywhere in this article. Ileanadu (talk) 22:08, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

This article stinks

This is one of the worst articles I have ever read. Nothing but a bunch of anecdotes and quotes.

It does not say how the strike ended- what the Sotomayor ruling forced the owners to do - what the terms of the new CBA were- what the future effect of the new agreement was. (talk) 13:08, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

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"948 games were cancelled in all"

Is this true at all? Exactly 1600 games were regularly played this season (with one game ending in a tie, so in most statistics you only see 1599 games). Since every team was to play 162 games and there were 28 teams in the league, it should have been 2268 games (not counting the post season).

This means 668 games were cancelled. What is with the remaining 280 games? If it's true that 948 games were cancelled that would mean that every team had to play 182 games instead of 162.

• 162*28/2 = 2268 (scheduled number of games in that season)
• 2268-1600 = 668 (amount of cancelled games, not 948!)
• 1600+948 = 2548 (scheduled number of games if 948 games were missing, not 2268!)
• 182*28/2 = 2548 (every team would need to play 182 games instead of 162 to arrive at the result of 2548 games)

--31.19.51.99 (talk) 21:31, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 3 May 2022

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1994–95 Major League Baseball strike → 1994–95 Major League Baseball Players' Association strike – It would be more accurate to refer to this strike as the 1994–95 MLBPA strike because it was the MLBPA who struck, not MLB. As we know, when it comes to work stoppages, it's workers who strike in the case of a strike and management who locks workers out in the case of a lockout. Dennis C. Abrams (talk) 00:59, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose While I understand your logic, I interpret the title to mean more "the 1994-95 strike that impacted Major League Baseball". The title is more concise as it is and the extra words are not necessary. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:46, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose. If consensus is to change it, "Major League Baseball player's strike" would be better - I don't think I've ever seen the MLBPA brought up in this context Nohomersryan (talk) 03:14, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose. This is the most consistent way to title the article. For example, we have 1913 Studebaker strike, 2008 Toronto Transit Commission strike, and 2021 British Gas strike. (For that matter, the 1917 Spanish general strike was not a strike by Spanish generals.) The "strike" wording makes it clear that this was not a lockout like the 2011 NFL lockout or the 1994–95 NHL lockout. Dekimasuよ! 04:21, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose. WP:COMMONNAME also needs to be considered, and I'm not aware of any reliable sources that use "1994–95 Major League Baseball Players' Association strike", nor have any sources been cited in the proposal. 162 etc. (talk) 16:33, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose move per above. Muboshgu's interpretation of the title is valid. O.N.R. ^(talk) 06:19, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

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