Talk:2005 Hit convoy ambush

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The article is way off the mark, there were 14 of a 19 man convoy killed that afternoon, and not all contractors were killed, not all contractors were south African and Japanese! How do I know this? Because I am British and I am one of the Two contractors who survived that overwhelming ambush, incidentally, it was Sunday 8th May 2005. Please get your facts correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.40.186.219 (talk) 13:20, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

CSD

I'm afraid i couldnt find an appropriate CSD tag, but the reasoning is that a single ambush in iraq is non-notable, the number of deaths each week would result in 100's of articles being created. If the CSD goes through, the japanese contractor involved should probably also be deleted. Ironholds (talk) 06:11, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

This ambush happened in 2005, well before the war reached a toll of daily 100 bodies poping up. It was notable at the time. Maybe not to you but then it was. Especialy in Japan and it did lead to much debate on Japanese policy of troops going abroad because of the capture of the contractor. Also, yes there are always reports of convoys being attacked but this was one of a few rare cases that all of the people in the convoy were killed. Usualy only 5-10 people at most are killed in regular attacks. Also your arguments that it be deleated are not valid enough for it to be actualy deleated. (Top Gun)

Listen there is at least a half a dozen articles on battles during the Vietnam war that were only platoon size battles which were like this one. And many people didn't even hear of them among the 50 or so battles fought per week then. But still those articles exist and are listed in the Vietnam war campaignbox.(Top Gun)

If those are the reasons why the ambush is notable, then they should be included in the article. Of couse, it was only just created. However, if this article is included it raises a whole range of questions about what other ambushes should be included as well.Lawrencema (talk) 06:29, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

If "I'm afraid i couldnt find an appropriate CSD tag", then it is a jolly good sign the page is not eligible for speedy deletion and should be taken to AfD instead. Pegasus «C¦T» 06:30, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you.(Top Gun)

thats the reasoning? i'm sorry, there's no "non-notable bloodbath" tag, just biography/webcontent, bands, companies and so on. Ironholds (talk) 07:27, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

if the skirmish invoked debate about japanese PMC involvement, put that in the article so said article is more relevant. Iraq skirmishes such as Operation Planet X which are in a small area/involve few men simply redirect to the list of coalition operations; even battles like Operation Abilene involving brigade-sized units simply have a place on a list rather than an individual article. And according to [[1]] 2005 saw between 50 and 75 killed each month; not 100, but still enough to render your point moot.Ironholds (talk) 07:34, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Template

Use military attack template, not battle. See: 31 March 2004 Fallujah ambush --TheFEARgod (Ч) 13:49, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

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