Talk:2008 Summer Olympics medal table/Archive 3

Cycling men's road race

I'm quite sure that all that has officially taken place is that Davide Rebellin has been disqualified. Fabian Cancellara has not (yet) been upgraded to silver medal position, nor has Alexandr Kolobnev to the bronze. Now, maybe I blinked and missed the RS that says that this has already happened, and not just that it is exceedingly likely or speculation that it has or will happen, but I sorta doubt it. Certainly, as far as we indicate on the article about the race, all that's happened is Rebellin's disqualification. It seems that right now, this event has only a gold and a bronze medalist. Alex finds herself awake at night _{(Talk · What keeps her up)} 07:35, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

OK, Rebellin has returned his silver medal, and Cancellara and Kolobnev have been upgraded in the official results. But are "second-place finisher" and "silver medalist" irrevocably synonyms (and third/bronze)? Cancellara and Kolobnev have not been awarded new medals, so are they necessarily medalists at this point? Alex finds herself awake at night _{(Talk · What keeps her up)} 22:33, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Kolobnev has not been awarded a bronze medal, nor even been officially declared the bronze medalist. Nor has Fabian Cancellara been moved up. This article is now verifiably false; I'll try to fix it myself, but I've never been too good with tables. Nosleep (Talk · Contribs) 02:49, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

According to the event's article, the table needs to be corrected now as each has had their medal upgraded. --DavidCane (talk) 18:16, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Why are there nobodys in the lead image??

Michael Phelps is iconic for the 2008 Summer Olympics - most gold medals won in a single Olympics (eight). Why is he not in the lead image? The lead image contains lesser known athletes. --Regards, Necessary Evil (talk) 03:09, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Because back during the games, an edit war erupted because the Phelps image had two Americans in it. So users were screaming American bias. So, I switched in the best image available at the time with less than two Americans, and that seemed to satisfy everyone because nobody removed that image until you did. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 00:25, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

It is easy to step into a minefield, thanks for the information. So what you're saying is that an image with Michael Phelps and two non-US medallists would be okay, like Men's 200 metre butterfly (Phelps, 1 Hungarian & 1 Japanese) or Men's 100 metre butterfly (Phelps, 1 Serb & 1 Australian)? --Regards, Necessary Evil (talk) 17:29, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Well, at this point I don't think it really matters which image is used, though it is probably best to keep the current image. Why is it a big deal that Michael Phelps is not in the lead image? There is still one of him on the page, and it's not like the lack of him in the lead is downplaying his accomplishments in any way. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 22:53, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Two US medallists in the lead image is American bias, I understand that. But people with a casual knowledge of the Olympics could benefit from Michael Phelps in the lead image - "Yeah, that was the year a guy took eight gold medals!" So Michael Phelps and "2008 Summer Olympics medal table" are very closely linked. At the moment I haven't found free images of Michael Phelps with two non-US medallists from Beijing, but perhaps they could be advertised among Wikipedians, Flickr etc. --Regards, Necessary Evil (talk) 13:31, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Before or After?

Is the Medal Table adjusted to not include medals that the country was later stripped of, or is this the initial count? 97.96.65.123 (talk) 01:56, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

EU

It would be interesting to have the European Union in the table of medals, even if it's not a single country! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.226.64.67 (talk) 20:56, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

That was specifically rejected before. AnonMoos (talk) 05:11, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

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Table Rankings

Since there's no official ranking for medal tables, why is Wikipedia creating one?
The IOC sorts by gold first, then silver, then bronze, and that's fine for the default listings, but if I want to see who came in 14th in overall medals, do I really have to sort that column and count down 14 rows to see who's there? In other words, why do the rankings sort also? They should only serve as an index for whatever the user is sorting by. — Preceding unsigned comment added by K10wnstaz (talk • contribs) 02:39, 8 August 2012 (UTC) Ya know, I've done it thousands of times but it's been so long I forgot how to sign a post here. I know tildes are involved, but based on the activity here, no one's ever gonna read this anyway, so whatever. EDIT: Thank you Sinebot.

Making the "ranking" column be sortable allows you to restore the table to its original default state without reloading the page... AnonMoos (talk) 05:17, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Can you not do that simply by sorting the "gold" column?--Icowrich (talk) 12:37, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

That wouldn't necessarily restore exact "lexicographical" ordering (i.e. by gold, then by silver among those having the same number of golds, then by bronze among those having the same number of golds and silvers). AnonMoos (talk) 23:50, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Indonesian medals

There seems to be something wrong with the indonesian medals. In the table there are 3 gold medals, but if you go to the article of "Indonesia in Summer Olympics 2008" there is just one gold medal — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.15.63.232 (talk) 22:44, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

The medal table was vandalized these last days. The medal count for Indonesia is correct as today. Moscoh (talk) 11:40, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Continental Table

Should there be a summarised continental table ranking the continents? I think it makes for interesting reading and shows the geographic power bases and in particular how the continental rankings have changed over time. Should also be applied to other Olympic Games medal tables. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joerow (talk • contribs) 13:13, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Picture and medal table

You need to change the picture at the top with the colours, representing what countries got what. Ireland got at least 1 gold medal, 3 in fact, and 2 silver. Some other countries in the medal table or picture may be wrong so please fix this also. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.46.221.146 (talk) 15:01, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

According to the IOC's search engine, Ireland got just one silver and two bronze medals in the 2008 Summer Olympics. So, both the table and the map seem to be correct. Moscoh (talk) 13:18, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

I note green dots on the map for a number of british crown dependancies - notably the isle of man and the channel islands - I can't think this is correct, as these entities DID compete at the games, but as part of GB. Surely they should thus either have no colour, as not being a separate entity, or be gold for the colour of the NOC to which they belong?

Mpjmcevoybeta (talk) 10:44, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Medal Table totals

It seems that the total of gold and silver medals is incorrect. I've counted up to 303 golds and 301 silvers, while the table shows 302/302. I don't know if the totals are incorrect or some NOC medal count is incorrect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.37.21.151 (talk) 14:42, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

I think the difference may be that someone has moved the Polish weightlifter from silver to gold, but that is not shown elsewhere with the other associated changes. See history of the relevant event article. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:02, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

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