Talk:2011 Giro d'Italia/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Resolute (talk · contribs) 04:26, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

General

• Images are good
• Sources are good; both references to Facebook go to the tournament's official page
• Specific spotchecks not done yet
• Spotcheck of sources shows they support the prose, no issue with close paraphrasing.

Lead

• I think it would be beneficial to specify what classifications Garzelli and Kreuziger won rather than to just say they "won the other two jersey awards", as well as to note that Scarponi was also elevated to the points title.

• Fixed. Craig(talk) 17:49, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Teams

• "Two UCI Professional Continental were announced..." - Should be "Two UCI Professional Continental teams were announced"?

• Yes it should. Craig(talk) 17:49, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Race previews and favorites

• "The 2011 Giro was thus the third successive edition, and fourth in the last five, in which the reigning champion did not return to defend his championship." - Citation?

• Cited. Craig(talk) 21:48, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

• "Again like they had in 2010, the team reactivated the two riders just after the Giro ended." - Awkward. Perhaps "As with 2010, the team reactivated the two riders after the Giro ended."?

• Changed to that. Craig(talk) 21:44, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

• "The near total dearth of flat, sprinter-friendly stages did not stop the three arguably best sprinters in the world, Mark Cavendish, Tyler Farrar, and Alessandro Petacchi, from all taking the start." - citation for the satus of these three as being "three arguably best sprinters in the world"?

• It's a borderline POV statement that. Amended to just sprinters. Craig(talk) 22:56, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

• "One sprinter who was expected to start, Farnese Vini-Neri Sottoli's Andrea Guardini, was not part of the start list." - duplicate use of 'start'. Reword slightly?

• Reworded. Craig(talk) 21:44, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Routes and stages

• Ref 40, dealing with the exclusion of the Monte Cristis climb is misplaced. It does not support the two sentences it follows, but ref 41 does. I would just move ref 40 up, to the point ending at "...and the stage was reduced in length from its originally planned length of 210 km (130 mi)."

• Repositioned. Craig(talk) 17:54, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

• "In spite of first-hand criticism from riders, following the race, that the route was excessively difficult and dangerous..." - remove the two commas. They introduce unnecessary pauses.

• Removed. Craig(talk) 17:54, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Race overview

• "...though this result was obviously overshadowed by the death of Wouter Weylandt earlier in the stage." - I'd strike 'obviously'

• Struck away. Craig(talk) 19:04, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

• It is explained lower in the article, but it might be helpful to briefly note that the peleton chose not to run stage four competitively following the rider's death. Also, referring to stage five as "the fourth stage to be run competitively..." is slightly confusing. I initially thought this referred to the actual stage four.

• Clarified using wording from the Stage 1 to 11 page. Craig(talk) 19:04, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

• "...there was speculation that Contador may tactically relinquish the jersey." - 'may' reads to me as a future-tense verb in a past-tense statement. Change to "would", perhaps?

• Replaced. Craig(talk) 21:38, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

• "The Spaniard himself hinted that such a move may be in his plans." - same as above. I would replace the usage of 'may'.

• Replaced. Craig(talk) 21:38, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

• "Contador did not attempt to sprint for the win, seemingly content to allow Rujano to take it." - POV statement, as the editor is attempting to guess at the motivations of the subject. I would finish the sentence with simply "...allowing Rujano to take it."

• Altered. Craig(talk) 21:38, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

• "Contador's two stage wins and numerous top five placings also made him the winner of the points competition, by a substantial margin. Michele Scarponi and Vincenzo Nibali completed the podium, in that order, having targeted one another once it became obvious that Contador's advantage was insurmountable. Nibali held second place on stages 13 and 14, but Scarponi overtook him on Gardeccia, finishing a minute and a half better (only six seconds the lesser of Contador), and never relinquished second place. Stefano Garzelli was in the breakaway on the Gardeccia stage and took maximum points on three of the day's five climbs, and second place points on the other two. It was largely thanks to this performance that he won the mountains classification at the end of the race. Roman Kreuziger, still eligible by a matter of months, won the youth competition with his ride to sixth place overall." - None of this has a citation

• Cites where possible. Craig(talk) 22:20, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

• "...but prior to Cavendish's second victory no team, let alone individual rider..." - I don't see the point of italicizing 'team' here.

• Removed. Craig(talk) 21:38, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

• "Mikel Nieve the next day won the stage that..." - awkward. Perhaps either "The next day, Mikel Nieve won the stage that...", or "Mikel Nieve won the next stage, which..."?

• Altered to The next day, Mikel Nieve won the stage that... Craig(talk) 21:38, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

• "...it could be said that 15 of the 22 teams that completed the race came away with some sort of victory." - strike 'it could be said'

• Removed. Craig(talk) 21:38, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Death of Xavier Tondó

• That Contador was the 'eventual winner' is noted twice in one paragraph. It took me a moment to realize each use had different contexts (first was overall race?, second was that stage). It would help reduce my confusion to reword one usage.

• Reworded the latter usage. Craig(talk) 17:49, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Classification leadership

• I have a feeling I'm about to suggest breaking a standard across several articles, but the dark green background and blue link for the final winner of the mountains classification in the table is nearly impossible to read. Is it possible to use a slightly lighter font of green there?

• Gone slightly lighter, if you want to double check that. Hate the "green" or "darkgreen" usages myself! Craig(talk) 17:49, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

• Reads better to me, but those tables may be worth discussing at the project level, as I am quite sure they fail accessibility guidelines pretty badly. Resolute 20:20, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Overall

An excellent article! Very thorough, but huge! As such, I found many small issues, but none major. I have not yet done a source spot check, so I may have more to add later - though I find this unlikely. For now, I am placing on hold pending resolution of issues identified above. Regards, Resolute 04:26, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

And now passing, Congrats! Resolute 01:03, 10 April 2012 (UTC)