Talk:2012 in classical music

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Am I the only one to notice how pathetic the Wikipedia entries on 'the year in classical music' are? E.g., there's a list of six new works, which are neither representative nor significant. Yet according to the American Symphony Leaque, American orchestras premiered 165 new works in 2012-13. And that's just AMERICAN orchestras. It leaves out the probably much higher tally in Europe, not to mention Canada, Asia and South America; and it leaves out the surely much higher number of premieres of solo and chamber works in each of these places. It's a very safe bet that the number of classical works premiered publicly in 2012 was in four figures (I don't know where there's a central repository to look that up). You get no sense of that at all from this entry. The works mentioned are random, not works that made "best of year" lists anywhere. Not sure how to improve these entries, but they badly need it... 17:35, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

But do bear in mind that references are required in articles. It's not enough for a new work to be premièred - that doesn't mean it's any good or that anyone has heard it. Feel free to help improve it though - Wikipedia is, after all, meant to be a collaborative effort.Deb (talk) 17:44, 22 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

My suggested plan: I will seek more references like that from the League of American Orchestras - ones that cover chamber, choral, operatic, and solo music, and from all continents - and add descriptions and links to them. THEN, I will simply remove the short lists of individual works (or move them to the bottom where they are inconspicuous and can be added to); in their place I will add lists of works that were included in "best of year" lists by major publications and awards. Third, I will add information and links for all the major awards given in the year - Gramophone, Diapason, EchoKlassic, etc., ASCAP/Deems Taylor, etc etc. Not just the insignificant and commercialized "Classical Brits," which is for obvious reasons highly unrepresentative (even of classical music in the UK, much less of the rest of the globe). All this WILL take months. But I hope in the end it is a much better page and a template for all those other years..... I feel it is worthwhile because 2012 was actually a rather exciting year in classical music, and it would be good if at least a glimmer of it was evident in the wikipedia entry.Brozhnik (talk) 18:52, 22 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Sounds good to me.Deb (talk) 18:58, 22 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
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