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Results tables in Team pages

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Latest comment: 10 years ago6 comments2 people in discussion

I made a modified Result table based on the one that has gone up on each of the team pages, I changed a few things so that it would be easier to change things for future seasons. I propose we use these changes for the tables, but I would like to hear feed-back on it.

Year Chassis Tyres Drivers 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Points
2014–15 TBC M CHI MAL HKG URU ARG LOS MIA MON GER GBR
TBC
TBC

As you can see, some of the changes I have made include: Replacing the team name section for the season (as these will be on the teams page, so having the team name is unnecessary), adding a tyre section, removing the car numbers (although this could be added back), merging the row for chassis, moving the races down and adding round numbers (this will easily allow more seasons to be added. Finally, I removed the flags, as that info is available on the season page. JohnMcButts (talk) 18:28, 6 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

And I've just hidden them (not deleted). Season does not start until September, a large blank table does not need to be there for the next nine months. I've also merged team articles into their parent teams where appropriate. It is not the Wikipedia practice to run seperate articles for each series a motor racing organisation competes in. I've also removed the (Formula E team) disambiguator. Per WP:DISAMBIG you are not supposed to place a bracketted explanation like that in an article name unless there is a clash with another article. Also made quite a few changes to the categorisation of these team articles. --Falcadore (talk) 01:59, 23 December 2013 (UTC)Reply
Hiding the table makes perfect sense. However, I was wondering about some of the teams that you merged. I agree with most of them (DAMS, Andretti, Dragon, etc.), but I do question whether the defunct F1 teams of Super Aguri and Virgin are the same projects as their respective F1 counterparts. I had been under the impression that Marussia had taken over the Virgin Team. I'm still looking for a source that says whether or not Super Aguri is the same entity to the F1 team. It certainly shares the name (and Mr. Suzuki) along with some senior members of the team, but on the team info page on the Formula E site is said that it was a brand new team. JohnMcButts (talk) 02:17, 23 December 2013 (UTC)Reply
Of course it's a new team. When Andretti Autosport started its American Le Mans Series team that was a new team. Doesn't mean it gets a seperate article. Virgin team has not been merged (yet). Marussia F1 has its own article, so I don't see any problem with merging into Virgin. --Falcadore (talk) 02:20, 23 December 2013 (UTC)Reply
If that's the case, then why are Caterham F1 and Caterham Racing (GP2 team) separate pages? The Caterham Racing article states that it "...shares deep technical links with its Formula One parent team. The GP2 operation is embedded within the Formula One operation and base, and the two teams share the same technical staff." I hope this doesn't seem like I'm trying to be difficult, I just want to understand when an entity is different enough to warrant a separate page. JohnMcButts (talk) 02:51, 23 December 2013 (UTC)Reply
It probably shouldn't, unless the GP2 team has a significant history prior to Caterham. --Falcadore (talk) 06:31, 23 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

Monte Carlo

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Latest comment: 10 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

If you take a look at the Monaco page, you may notice that Monte Carlo isn't the capital of Monaco. Pch172 (talk) 17:00, 22 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

Do we need to make a note of which cities are capitals? Seems a bit unnecessary. JohnMcButts (talk) 23:44, 22 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

Circuit de Monaco source?

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Latest comment: 10 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Does anyone have a source that says the race will be held on the GP track? JohnMcButts (talk) 23:42, 22 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

Trulli GP

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Latest comment: 10 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I posted this on the talk page for the Trulli GP page, but maybe this is a better place for it. Thus far there has been no confirmation that the team will be using an Italian racing license. On the teams page [1] Trulli GP is the only team that doesn't have a flag listed. On the page for the team [2] it says the location is Switzerland. Let's just wait until we see some sort of confirmation about the team location. The series doesn't start for another two months. JohnMcButts (talk) 16:46, 10 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

Teams Order?

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Latest comment: 9 years ago8 comments3 people in discussion

Can someone explain the logic behind the order of the teams in the Teams and drivers section? C1010 (talk) 21:52, 13 December 2014 (UTC)Reply

Looks like it is based on the lowest number in the team. I think it would make more sense to have it be in alphabetical order for the teams. Thoughts? JohnMcButts (talk) 21:57, 13 December 2014 (UTC)Reply
Alphabetical order makes more sense to me too. C1010 (talk) 04:03, 14 December 2014 (UTC)Reply
Numerological order is the default standard in wikipedia, and in general use within motorsport. Ever pick up an official program at a race meeting the entry lists are always in numerological order.
Why? Becuase race numbers are there to specificaly identify one racing driver from another. It has been the standard method of identifying race cars on a track for over 100 years. Using any other method makes less sense. --Falcadore (talk) 05:22, 14 December 2014 (UTC)Reply
Numerological order certainly makes sense in a series like GP2 where the teams are given numbers based on their performance the previous year. The drivers are all listed in consecutive numerological order, and not this silly lowest number in the team. Not every series uses the lowest number system, so if we think that there's a better way, why not use it? Additionally, the Formula E site http://www.fiaformulae.com/en/teams.aspx uses an alphabetical list of teams, and doesn't even list the car numbers. Finally, Wikipedia is not a race program. It's an encyclopedia, and for an entry list like this alphabetical order makes the most sense. JohnMcButts (talk) 15:47, 14 December 2014 (UTC)Reply
And yet by having a tabular listing of competitors we are performing the exact same function as what a program does; listing and identifying the competitors. So in that particular aspect wikipedia IS a program.
And for you information, the allocation of race numbers being dependant on previous years results has never been a factor in the tabulation of race numbers. Almost every other motor racing article in wikipedia performs in this manner. Alphabetical by teams is very much the exception to the rule.
The fact remains that reace number have always existed for identification purposes and for that reason only. Race numbers have been a part of motor racing since the very beginning of the sport and used constantly since then for exactly that purpose, and you a proposing something other tabulation than the system built into the sport from it's earliest days? No that is the idea that does not make sense.
You asked for reasons and thoughts, well there they are. You can ignore them if you choose, but by doing so, you are ignoring one of the more important parts of the sport. --Falcadore (talk) 07:10, 15 December 2014 (UTC)Reply
Formula One teams are listed in alphabetical order of their respective constructors. C1010 (talk) 20:47, 14 December 2014 (UTC)Reply
User:C1010: Only in 2014, and only because one editor campaigned it in. Look at all the other F1 seasons. --Falcadore (talk) 07:10, 15 December 2014 (UTC)Reply

Lap chart 2015

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Latest comment: 9 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I've created the lap chart Template:FELaps2015 to be used for the calendar year 2015. The chart I started with was based off of the race report in the wiki article, and the colors for drivers chosen based off the 2014 template. Twirlypen (talk) 03:12, 18 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

Amlin Aguri & Trulli teams racing license

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Latest comment: 9 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

According to the official entry list of the last ePrix [3], Amlin Aguri is a British team and Trulli GP is an Italian team. Also, after da Costa's win in Buenos Aires, the Portugese and British national anthems as been played for the winning driver and team (Amlin Aguri). Fansportsf1 (talk) 20:35, 28 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

I've corrected that. Tvx1 23:56, 27 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
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Incorrect season referencing for Formula E

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Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I'm really confused as to why the Formula E articles use the incorrect season referencing? In Formula E, seasons are not described by year but as 'Season 1,' 'Season 2,' etc - so if Nelson Piquet Jr is referred to he is described as 'Season 1 Champion,' Sebastien Buemi 'Season 2 champion' etc.

I appreciate that other motorsport series don't adhere to this but it seems extremely nonsensical not to refer to the seasons by the way that people would hear them. Would the community be open to correcting this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.53.167.189 (talk) 19:01, 24 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

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