@Qed237: Hi, I just want to ask for your opinion if this layout looks better than the current one, with a scroll table for QR1, which became very huge this season. I didn't want to make such an edit without asking someone else about it:
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| Winners of the play-off round advance to the group stage
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| Losers of all rounds are eliminated
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The Replicator (talk) 22:50, 22 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
- @The Replicator: I have also realised that the list will be very long which is why I did split it in two. However that wont work when we have to add the teams from CL that needs the current left column to be wider. About the scrolling solution, I can understand your thinking, but I dont think it is a good idea to hide content in an article. On personal userpages scrolling can be fine, but I am not to happy to use it on articles because it hides content and we should try and avoid that. An other solution could be to still have two columns for first round and put second and third, or third and playoff together. I will see if I can make an example in a few minutes. Qed237 (talk) 22:43, 22 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
- @Qed237: Okay, I understand the cons of it. But I'm interested in your idea. Thanks. The Replicator (talk) 22:48, 22 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
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Maybe that can work? But it looks weird with second below third, switch places? And actually why do we have them from right to left? Naturally it feels like we read from left so first should be on left, then second and so on which would be...
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Or what do you say?
- @The Replicator: I guess that playoff-teams are on left because they are higher seeded like "pot1" and such in the way we often list teams? Qed237 (talk) 22:56, 22 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
- @Qed237: I prefer the first one, it's a good idea. And yes, I think that's the point of PO, QR3, QR2, QR1, just like Pot 1,2,3,4. I am totally for your first alternative. Go ahead, if you will. And thanks again. The Replicator (talk) 23:01, 22 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
- @The Replicator: Okay I will make the modification based on this discussion. Qed237 (talk) 23:13, 22 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
The first model is the best because the model looks like the page 2015-16 UEFA Champions League qualifying phase and play-off round. Does not matter QR1 is huge. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.98.161.7 (talk) 16:03, 12 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
I can't see how the citations used for attendances can be used. Not one of the summary references has the attendance. The only way you can get the attendance is from the match summary in question. Brudder Andrusha (talk) 18:18, 5 August 2015 (UTC)Reply
- Instead of having 300 different references for each round, we have one and then the reader can click on the match of their interest. Qed237 (talk) 00:15, 6 August 2015 (UTC)Reply
- The point is the reference given for the attendance is {{Failed verification}} with {{Verify credibility}}, {{Verifiability}}.
This will lead to edit disputes as sources are replaced with links to articles which actually have articles that do have attendances in the articles. This should be revisited and tagged with a better solution because the reference given is bogus. Brudder Andrusha (talk) 00:44, 6 August 2015 (UTC)Reply
- Attendances can be found in the links so cant say it is bogus. Starting the play-off rounds UEFA will display attendances (or at least they have before). Do you have a better solution? Qed237 (talk) 00:54, 6 August 2015 (UTC)Reply
- The reference is not in the link that is given in this article. Expecting someone to start searching for that attendance in another link is just way off after each reference is tagged right next to the attendance! I thought UEFA produces a pdf file that does summarizes the results with the attendances. It's not produced immediately after the round but it definitely exists. Otherwise how would Soccerway or Scoresway get this information for their articles? It is coming from official sources. Brudder Andrusha (talk) 01:18, 6 August 2015 (UTC)Reply
@Brudder Andrusha: UEFA only does this from play-off round and forward, see this for last season. So next round they will have attendances and info in a pdf but not for the three first qualifying rounds. Qed237 (talk) 15:11, 6 August 2015 (UTC)Reply
