Talk:2016 NRL Grand Final
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ANZ Stadium is a neutral venue for the NRL Grand final - aka no 'home' rights
editJust to put it out there, there are no 'hosting rights' or 'home rights' when it comes to the NRL Grand Final. Despite its location, the chosen venue for the match is considered a 'neutral ground'. This is due to a contractual agreement between the NRL and the NSW government, not any of the Sydney clubs. The Cronulla Sharks do not represent NSW, or even Sydney for that matter, and do not play their home games at the venue (they use Allianz Stadium during the finals). As such, there are no home rights to the NRL Grand Final. The team that is listed first is due to them having finished higher on the premiership ladder. Narconarco1 (talk) 11:41, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- That all sounds very reasoned and I'm inclined to agree. But perhaps User:CodyCruickshank's concern is consistency. Has the higher-finishing team always been listed in Grand final articles first? Is the above interpretation going to mean going back and making a lot of changes to previous grand final articles? If so, it should give us pause. If other GF articles do already list the higher-finishing teams first, then I'd say User:Narconarco1 has it right and we can get on with being productive. (I'm sure this doesn't need saying, but please nobody see this as an inducement to start edit-warring on other grand final articles. Let's stick to discussion for the time being.)--Gibson Flying V (talk) 14:53, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- See [[1]]. On the NRL homepage Melbourne is listed first.--Je suis blocked by Darkwind 16:15, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- Also agree, neutral venue, higher team first. After all, had Canberra won their QF, the PF would be been their "home" game without question - but at the SFS.
- There will be a designated home team, for things like coin toss etc - but I can't find the relevant rulebook. For now I would list Melbourne first, based on [2] and [3] (they took the top path). However I would expect at least one reliable source to mention the designated home team this in the upcoming week, so if one arises then feel free to change the article based on that. Mattlore (talk) 21:57, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- There has been one anomaly in the past being the 2008 NRL Grand Final. Manly were listed first and wore their home strip during the match despite finishing 2nd on the ladder whilst Melbourne were minor premiers. This is perhaps due to the fact that Manly performed better then Melbourne during the finals series. Narconarco1 (talk) 00:21, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
- I suspect it is explained by 2008_NRL_season#Finals_Chart and has nothing to do with where they finished on the ladder. Mattlore (talk) 01:02, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
- There has been one anomaly in the past being the 2008 NRL Grand Final. Manly were listed first and wore their home strip during the match despite finishing 2nd on the ladder whilst Melbourne were minor premiers. This is perhaps due to the fact that Manly performed better then Melbourne during the finals series. Narconarco1 (talk) 00:21, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
- There will be a designated home team, for things like coin toss etc - but I can't find the relevant rulebook. For now I would list Melbourne first, based on [2] and [3] (they took the top path). However I would expect at least one reliable source to mention the designated home team this in the upcoming week, so if one arises then feel free to change the article based on that. Mattlore (talk) 21:57, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
Prose for the match summary
editI have started expanding the match summary. Please feel free to add to it. This article could be on the Wikipedia front page if this section is improved. Jarumain (talk) 09:16, 3 October 2016 (UTC)