Talk:2017 Hong Kong Chief Executive election

Nomination vote count

Please add citations to the nomination vote count of the nominees. －yhynerson1 (talk) 06:45, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Dispute on the credibility of the opinion polling done by HKRA

(Referring to the Chinese version)

Some editors in the Chinese Wikipedia questioned on the credibility of the opinion polling done by HKRA, with the reason that HKRA is supported by the pro-Beijing 'One Country Two Systems Research Institute', and that only the polls done by academic institutions should be included, while the others opposes the claim. I found that such polls are included in the English version and the data of those polls are being used in the chart of the section. Therefore, I am here to ask if 'credibility' a key factor of deciding whether to include those polls on Wikipedia. Many Thanks!!!^_^--58.176.21.67 (talk) 17:00, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

The statistics of the Hong Kong Research Association have been cited by the media and on wikipedia in many previous elections already. They always provide solid and data that is not overly different than the other polling agents you mentioned. Unless there is a proof showing that the HKRA polls are being fabricated, otherwise there should not be censored only on the ground of its political background. For my understanding, citing HKRA polls on wikipedia had not caused any dispute until a specific poll showing that Carrie Lam leading the poll. Lmmnhn (talk) 17:22, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia should not get involved in politics and report facts. Fact is, HKRA publishes polls and this article provides an overview of polls. If there is credible evidence that HKRA does not work correctly in doing their polls, then there may be reason to exclude. Otherwise we may choose to include them so that people can get the full picture. From what I see so far, they are not wildly off from the other polls, so it doesn't immediately strike me as odd. Jake Brockman (talk) 17:24, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Not widely off? John leads Carrie by 5-20% in every single polls make by academic institutions while their margin in HKRA's poll is just 1%. Furthermore, I suggest you to read this article from Appledaily, which will give you an idea what HKRA's intentions are. Elhk2047 (talk) 20:35, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

I use the WOT extension and found the links to HKRA's polls are orange – They are not so reputative. I think academic polls and HKRA polls should be listed separately. –Yhynerson1 (talk) 04:04, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

@Lmmnhn Sorry, but it seems like the media has made it clear that HKRA is not credible – Carrie Lam leads John Tsang by 3%?! Source: [1] [2] –Yhynerson1 (talk) 09:54, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

(Hey, you should try {{ping}}.) @Yhynerson1:, your first link seems like a simple report, while the second does indirectly questions HKRA's credibility. I guess this one works better in questioning HKRA.

Suggested resolution, based on NPOV:

• "avoid stating seriously contested assertions as facts" – HKRA's results can be separately listed on its own with clear attribution. (HKRA's result messes up graphs, too.)
• "indicate the relative prominence of opposing views" – give HKRA some due weight, but don't make it too much (omit the plot maybe?)

To avoid geographical bias, sample a bit of other stuff like PRC media for weights too. (Pro-PRC/HKRA media in HK should be preferred over them, if there's any.) Consider Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard (or the NPOV one, hmm) too. --Artoria2e5 contrib 16:32, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Online Opinion

Checked through the links provided by the previous editor. Those seems to be sentiment analysis researches instead of simply online opinion polls. Sentiment analysis research is kind of a new dimension to measure the candidate of an election instead of conventional opinion polling or public opinion programs. These measure may have the value for reference as they are done by data mining instead of participations. It is not appropriate to be put under opinion polling section as that could be confusing when people think the sentiment analysis researches are online opinion polling. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Waxduckking (talk • contribs) 04:17, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

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