Talk:2018 British Isles heatwave

More information needed

The record breaking temperature playing for Scotland must be dropped because it has been officially rejected by the Met Office. Also much more information, pressure charts and pictures need to be uploaded and added to this article. (2A02:C7F:5621:2A00:61F2:D38C:EF89:17E9 (talk) 18:10, 5 July 2018 (UTC))

Broaden scope of this article?

This heat wave is a global phenomenon, with record-breaking temperatures in:

• Baku, Azerbaijan
• Burlington, Vermont
• Denver, Colorado
• Montreal, Canada
• Mount Washington, New Hampshire
• Northern Siberia
• Quriyat, Oman
• Shannon, Ireland
• Tbilisi, Georgia
• Yerevan, Armenia

Should we move this article to 2018 Northern Hemisphere heat waves (like 2010 Northern Hemisphere summer heat waves)? Firebrace (talk) 01:51, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Yes, many countries in the Northern Hemisphere have experienced unusually high temperatures during the last few weeks. Jim Michael (talk) 18:19, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

It's worth noting we also have an article on 2018 North American heat wave. This is Paul (talk) 18:36, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

• Costal Norway
• Northern Sweden
• Finland
• Greece
• Japan
• Central Iraq

--2.100.105.238 (talk) 13:52, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

• Syria

--2.100.105.238 (talk) 00:39, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

• Both Koreas.
• Greece

--2.100.105.238 (talk) 02:43, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Parts of Algeria. --The Claxton 1 (talk) 02:54, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

July 2018 melted road

A man's leg sank in melted road? No mention of temperature. Southern California heat wave went above 105 deg F, but no melted road noted. What material was used for U.K. roads? SWP13 (talk)

UK roads use tarmac/tarmacadam. Note that a road also melted in the UK 2017 heat wave 109.148.9.83 (talk) 11:38, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Previous article

An article concerning an earlier warm spell from 2018 was deleted some weeks ago, but I kept a copy of it in my userspace in case the information was needed elsewhere. Both the article and the deletion discussion contain some useful links that may help to augment this piece. The article concerned can be found here while the deletion discussion can be found here. Cheers, This is Paul (talk) 12:14, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

Hosepipe ban

The Belfast telegraph says it is the first nation wide hosepipe ban. It does not say it was the first hosepipe ban in the republic. Mobile mundo (talk) 17:34, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Archaeological discoveries?

Is this really relevant to this page? I haven't seen any news coverage of it or interest in it from the general public. Seems like someone with a keener interest in archaeological discoveries is trying to draw an audience to it, through a correlated event. I'm sure there are hundreds of correlations from the heatwave but they don't all have 3 paragraphs, I would rather read 3 paragraphs of the record breaking ice cream sales, followed by 3 paragraphs on the increase in cycling. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.132.96.233 (talk) 23:41, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

I do think this section is relevant and have seen coverage on the BBC and other news sites. But maybe some of the details would be more relevant on the cropmark article and linked with a see also to this section? Voello (talk) 08:57, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

I've also seen quite a bit of coverage about the settlements found both under lakes that have drained and where fields have parched or burned. Given the UK's standout as archeologically notable in general, uncovering new things is very interesting Kingsif (talk) 14:43, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Rename it to 2018 European heat wave?

Why is this article named “2018 United Kingdom and Ireland heat wave”, and not “2018 European heat wave”? The rest of Europe is experiencing the same hot, dry spring and summer, with wildfires and heat waves across the continent. 217.123.76.65 (talk) 15:59, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

I agree with this, the heatwave spreads beyond GB&IE; additionally the Dutch and German versions of this article cover Europe, as well as the Wikidata item and Commons category. --Lewis Hulbert (talk) 21:59, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

I made a start with it, hopefully, other people are able and willing to join in, and help turn this page into a more European page. Mostly, because this drought and heat wave didn't start nor did it end in the UK. There are many more stories to tell, think of Sweden, Greece, Germany, etc. 「Robster1983」^{☞ Life's short, talk fast ☜} 14:33, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

I disagree I don't think this page should have been moved. There should however be a 2018 European heatwave page but with sections on each country/area and see also links to main pages for the countries/areas involved. This is because if each one goes into the detail the page of Great Britain and Irland was in it would quickly become unmanageable. Also much of the information already on here is notable for the UK/Ireland scale but not on a continent wise one.Voello (talk) 15:07, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

I tend to agree with Voello. While the current heat wave and drought is a pan-European event, at present this article now gives undue weight to the events of the United Kingdom, so perhaps it would have been better to create a separate one for Europe and keep the UK article. This is Paul (talk) 17:03, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

I agree with Voello and This is Paul. Firebrace (talk) 22:52, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

Because it's already renamed, maybe one could create a new article concerning the British and Irish heat wave, and put a shortened text in this article - like it has been done with the Greek entry in this article? 217.123.76.65 (talk) 13:36, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

I've been bold and moved this back to the UK-centric article (I think there's a consensus for that, above), and split out the other countries to the 2018 European drought and heat waves article. Hope that's OK. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 14:48, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

That's very bold, yet much appreciated. It creates more order in all of it. What does the rest reckon? 217.123.76.65 (talk) 17:36, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Fantastic, much better to keep the two separate. This is Paul (talk) 19:48, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

No problem. I think the initial idea was fine, but it should have been the other way round. No harm done, and all the content is covered in both articles. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 07:24, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

Just so you know, somebody will argue for it to be moved back to 2018 United Kingdom and Ireland heat wave because the Irish are not British (even though Ireland was originally known as Little Britain by the Greeks, and the term 'British Isles' predates the Kingdom of Great Britain)... Firebrace (talk) 12:45, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

Must admit I did wonder about this as a potential issue, and thought of suggesting we should move it back to that title. I'm happy with either title though. This is Paul (talk) 21:12, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

• Comment I would add Britain and Isles to 2018 European heat wave, however, many currently refer to the 2018 Global heat wave in the ongoing media coverage. prokaryotes (talk) 16:35, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Contentious name

Hi there just wondering about the changed name - some of our Irish friends won't like the term "British Isles" and it is generally more advisable to use "United Kingdom and Ireland" instead, as the page was titled at one point - any arguments for why it was changed to the current title? Buttons0603 (talk) 17:26, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Need for 2022 article

Shouldn't we have an article for the 2022 British Isles heatwave by now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Not2late (talk • contribs) 21:39, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:July 1757 heat wave which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 09:21, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Name - United Kingdom centric

Hello.

I move to say that this article should be renamed to be just for the United Kingdom. Clearly our British editors have put more effort in researching this topic. Ireland is barely mentioned. Several paragraphs actually mention comparisons between England, Wales, Scotland and the north of Ireland, which makes most sense as a United Kingdom specific page.

Then, any Irish info (what little there is) can be removed to the European page. I'm interested in hearing thoughts. Wikiejd2 (talk) 19:42, 4 August 2024 (UTC)